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The Vunipolas grew up in Wales just outside Pontypool.
Is it just the 27 of the squad of 31 that Ireland have brought to Japan that were born in Ireland?
I think its 27 of the New Zealand squad of 31 that were born in New Zealand, which would be the same number of players in the New Zealand squad born in New Zealand as Ireland have brought that were brought in Ireland - Sevu Reece was born in Fiji. Shannon Frizzell and Ofa Tuāungafasi were born in Tonga and Nepo Laulala was born in Samoa.
Would you ever post up a breakdown of the numbers on that statistic you threw out there about more New Zealand born players in the World Cup than players born in Ireland, Wales and Scotland combined. Maybe a list of all the players as well.
So weāve the number 1 rugby team in the world and the number 1 set of soccer fans in the wuddled.
Have you an issue with accents or a personās class?
Id be interested in this as well. Its a fascinating bit of trivia
Yes and no
I make it that Ireland and New Zealand have the same number of players born in Ireland and New Zealand - 27.
Just glancing at the Wales squad there, Hadleigh Parkes was born in New Zealand. Outside of that, thereās a handful born in England, rest were born in Wales. Players born in England would have been born there to Welsh families because of economic and working circumstances - Aaron Shingler was born in Aldershot. Aldershot is Army headquarters in the UK. Think Shinglerās father is an army man. Hallam Amos was born in England, when his parents who are doctors were stationed there. Ross Moriarty is the son of former Welsh international from the 1980ās Paul Moriarty. Ross was born in St Helens. His father like a lot of Welsh rugby players went North in the 1980ās to play rugby league when the steel industry collapsed in the Valleys. Probably 25, maybe 26 of the Welsh squad born in Wales.
Scotland do have maybe 6 players born in the Southern Hemisphere. Ryan Wilson was also born in Aldershot as well to an army family and I think Hamish Watson was born in England to a Scottish family. If at a conservative estimate, we said 22 of the Scotland squad born in Scotland, 25 of the Wales squad born in Wales and 27 of the Ireland squad born in Ireland - thatās 74 players.
I make it 27 of the New Zealand squad born in New Zealand. So @Halfpipe is claiming that thereās in or around 48 players born in New Zealand playing for teams other than New Zealand in the World Cup. As you said its a fascinating bit of trivia.
I think itās because Wales & Scotland arenāt countries
Depends what period of growing you are talking about, or are you saying they had finished growing at the age of 11? As you see below, itās a bit different to āShannonāsā CJ Stander
My interpretation of what @Halfpipe said was, there will be more players at this World Cup born in New Zealand, than born in Ireland, Wales and Scotland combined. Donāt see how the sovereign status or otherwise of Wales or Scotland comes into it. This is what @Halfpipe said.
I presume Argentina will beat France?
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The hurling canāt start quick enough
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Here you go mate.
Itās only the 10 ātier oneā countries covered but it should give us an indication.
Scotland will field 14(!!!), Wales 8 and Ireland 5 foreign born players.
So that means 27 of their 93 players, will be foreign born so 66 is the target to beat.
The top 10 countries (ex NZ) will field 13 NZ players.
NZ will field 27.
So we are at 40.
So 26 to go from the other 10.
This is assuming no Irish, Welsh or Scotch line out for any other country
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I prefer not to make any payments to Borisās propaganda paper, are you telling me the Vunipolas didnāt live in Gloucester, play with Thornbury and go to school in Millfield and Harrow? Is that BBC piece all wrong?
A few oirish on team usa is there not.
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Some dramatic revelations in that piece. 8 is seemingly almost half of 31 and England is overseas/foreign from Wales.
Something like 17 NZ born players with Tonga, 15 with Samoa, 5 with Japan. I think itās 81 NZ born players in total at this world cup. 12 of the 20 teams at the world cup have players born in NZ.
Amazingly the stat is true mate.
The Samoans (17 NZ) and Tongans (14 NZ) did you in.
The Samoans, Tongans & NZ team make 58 on their own so youād be well clear of the 66 by the finish. Even if you included the 4 Orish playing for the yankees