Russia Vs Ukraine (Part 1)

[habanerocat]

@Breaking_my_balls

I’d ride that.

[habanerocat]

There’s always one, isn’t there?

[Fagan_ODowd]

https://www.rte.ie/news/politics/2022/0202/1277437-russia-letter-irish-govt/

Bit of an owl puzzler here for Simon.

[Smark]

I said it here a few days ago, they’re after rattling Russia’s cage with all the back slapping and memes about the fishermen in Kerry facing down Russia and winning.

[Cheasty]

@Cheasty

The stance of the American right in all this is both hilarious and depressing. They are very performative about their stance on China being a mortal enemy (they’re not necessarily wrong on that).

But they are like schoolgirls at a Take That concert when Putin’s name comes up. Because what Putin has in Russia is what they want for America.

The various cognitive dissonance and shameless dishonesty is both astounding and totally predictable. And it means that should Putin decide to invade Ukraine, the west has a massive fifth columnist inside it.

Wonder does Hawley get paid off in dollars or roubles.

The Hill

[glasagusban]

Do you think NATO members want Ukraine to join?

[BruidheanChaorthainn]

It looks like this is fizzling out.

[TreatyStones]

Was just going to say the same. People are bored with it already.

[BruidheanChaorthainn]

They’d either want to shit or get off the pot in
My opinion.

You’d lads on here talking about covid again today.

[carryharry]

Last thing any of us want is war in Eastern Europe

[Julio_Geordio]

@BruidheanChaorthainn

They’d either want to shit or get off the pot in

If they wanted a war the first we’d have known about it would have been when they started it

[TreatyStones]

@carryharry

Last thing any of us want is war in Eastern Europe

Huh?
War is great entertainment

[carryharry]

Price of living is bad enough as it is

[TreatyStones]

It’s like two lads threatening the fight each other outside a nightclub. If they were really going to fight someone would be throwing a box straight away instead of giving the other lad a chance to round up friends as back up.

[Batigol]

It leads to fantastic films

[Lazarus]

Another masterclass on the world stage from President Putin

[Cheasty]

@glasagusban

Do you think NATO members want Ukraine to join?

Nice red herring of a question.

What do you think the most important question in this whole scenario is?

I’d say it’s a fairly simple one. What is the best way to stop Russia making any further incursion into Ukraine? It already occupies part of it, remember.

Sadly, I don’t think there’s a diplomatic solution to that question. Any supposed diplomatic solution will only embolden Putin to interfere more. Force is the only thing he understands.

There is already precedent for NATO intervening in a non-member state. It did so when the Serbs were genociding the Kosovars. It was correct to intervene then. And it would be correct to intervene now.

[Tank]

I dont really think that NATO membership for the Ukraine could work if Russia is already occupying it. How would that work? Would the US and Russia immediately be at war if Ukraine joined NATO?

[glasagusban]

It’s not a red herring of a question. Ukraine can’t join NATO if most NATO members don’t want it to join. It won’t be joining NATO in the near future.

[Cheasty]

I see you didn’t address my post.