But you did not understand that appeasing Putin was exactly what escalated things.
There is a war, because we did not stand up to Putin - as you wanted.
You either win the war or you lose the war.
If never again is to mean anything, the west must fight now. Otherwise, it means nothing and never meant anything.
Simon Coveney urging people to take in Ukrainian refugees. An admirable move, but I wonder will he host a few himself though? Surely lots of space in Leo and Matt’s swanky abode too.
What is your numerical figure where mass murder becomes genocide? Was 8,000 dead Muslims in Srebrenica a genocide? How many Ukrainians have to die in this war before you call it a genocide?
If Putin and Lavrov do not want genocide, why have they called for the “de-Nazification” of Ukraine? Why have they said a Ukrainian state and a Ukrainian people have no right to exist?
That is a charter for genocide.
At least a million people died of starvation in Ireland in the famine and you refuse to call it a genocide.
By your logic a million dead is not a genocide.
Yet those who align themselves with Free World operate different standards for Western allied countries committing genocide in the middle east for decades than with Russia.
How disingenuous.
The famine in Ireland wasn’t a genocide. No serious historical scholar says it was. The famine in Ukraine probably was. Serious historical scholars say it was.
The difference is in the aim of the regime.
Nothing to see here.
Kennedy pulled nuclear weapons out of Turkey, which were installed in 1959. Europe needs to figure out a defensive strategy that doesn’t involve a US led military presence on Russia’s borders.
There is currently none. There is no such thing. The west as we understand it - that is, a Europe which in which our basic freedoms are guaranteed - is backstopped by US hard power.
That will not change in the short term, if indeed it ever changes. The most likely thing that will change it in the medium term is a return to rule by the Putinist far right in the US in 2024.
I’d applaud that man not tweeting that and ask that everyone here avoids posting tweets, photos etc of casualties.
Nuclear war?
It’s not defined by the number who died
In retrospect this probably would have prevented it. I hold my hands up, I was wrong.
But did Nato even want to go in? Never mind fear of escalation etc, could they even just be that bothered?
But here’s the problem - people need to understand what is at stake and what the reality of this is.
When that evil monster videoed himself shooting all those people in the mosque in Christchurch, I watched it once, to comprehend the evil that believing evil beliefs can do.
Locking yourself away from it doesn’t stop it.
No I get ya and I agree, to an extent. I just think it’s disrespectful to the victims. Tweet about it and describe it yet, but the photos of the bodies are a bit much
Fuck up
There are NATO forces in Estonia and Latvia, and discussion of increasing their strength. Ukraine has requested since 2008 to join NATO, as has Georgia. Zelensky recently talked about a nuclear Ukraine. Finland joining NATO has also been proposed.
You can continue to dismiss these as not relevant to the current conflict, but it’s head in the sand stuff.
Of course there are NATO forces in Estonia and Latvia. They are NATO countries. NATO exists to stop countries being invaded. This is as relevant as saying that there are Russian forces in Novosibirsk.
There has been so much talk about Ukraine and Russia for the last eight years and the vast majority of it has been so much bullshit.
All of the people who talked that bullshit talk would have understood what was going on a hell of a lot better if they had got the following three words through their thick skulls - “Putin is Hitler.”
Because that’s what this basically boils down to. Everything else is noise.
Seriously, you need to fuck off with this shit. Those countries would be mad not to join NATO now. They need more troops and they should probably go nuclear.
Putin attacked neutral Ireland because he didn’t get a planning permission decision. He didn’t just attack Ireland, he attacked the weakest, most vulnerable, sick people, people dying with cancer, innocent people who need treatment. What did NATO have to do with that?
And how many Irish people did Putin murder last year?
On Monday I went to a month’s mind for the mother of a friend. Died of cancer. Did Putin’s cyber attack kill her? Did Putin kill my mother’s friend?
Fuck you, you cowardly fucking cunt. You betrayed this country once when you left for the US. Don’t fucking betray it again.