Russia Vs Ukraine (Part 1)

Horseshoe Stadium will never get finished.

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Why didn’t Putin invade when Trump was in power?

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Funny how the crowd who ensured we aren’t all speaking German in Europe could end freedom in the west by holding an election.

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Don’t forget little rocket man who misses his pen pal so much he is firing missiles nightly

No need to worry about the price of heating when you are glowing

Yes, it’s pretty easy to understand. Our freedoms in Europe are backstopped by American hard power and they thus depend on having a US president who is pro-Europe and not pro-Russia.

Currently the US has a pro-Europe president. Trump is pro-Russia and so is much, possibly most of the Republican party and certainly most of the industrial bullshit machine that makes up the US and international right-wing media.

If Trump gets in again, the support for Ukraine likely stops, and thus Putin will have free rein to totally annihilate Ukraine because US hard power will no longer be there to protect Ukraine, and by extension Europe.

It’s very easy to understand, actually.

The Moscow Times.
Looks fairly impartial. Anybody know anything about it?

Trumps has melted your brain.

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As far as I see it was a combination of the following: he was too busy trying to bring down the US from the inside and disrupting US support for Ukraine through Trump - and causing chaos in Ukraine by other means like cyber warfare and influence peddling through corrupt pro-Russian politicians, which he did to much success. Trump disrupted the US in the same way that Putin’s puppet Yanukovych was an internal chaos agent against Ukraine.

When Biden came in Ukraine had a firm US ally again. Thus Putin decided he had to roll the dice and invade as a desperate measure. He had no need to do so when Trump was there.

But Putin was also deluded about Ukraine itself, and deluded about Biden’s response. Biden’s response and the response of the west has been far stronger than he expected.

All of these things are true.

He was waiting for the split season to come in

Trump is a pro-Russia chaos agent, buddy and he has likely been so since the 80s at least. Trump was/is run by the same guy who ran Putin’s puppet Yanukovych, Paul Manafort. Putinism and Trumpism are ultimately the same thing - a bizarre type of white, Christian fascism which is simultaneously entirely value free and empty, run on the creation of an entirely choreographed fantasy world for the dumb masses.

Lads like you think the prospect of the end of freedom in the west is a laughing matter to get your internet kicks off of. The fecklessness of somebody who has never had your basic freedoms threatened even once in your life drips off of you.

My brain is melted enough alright but that’s because I currently have a barely functioning left eye after my retina detached 13 days ago.

Christ we had a lovely little break all the same.

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I invite you to use the ignore button if I wind you up that much, which I clearly do.

I just clear pop ups and spam to be honest, at least your right eye still works ironically enough! :sweat_smile: :wink:

Trump had them scared.
They knew they were dealing with a cunt madder than themselves. That’s a serious bargaining chip.

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Correct. Trump family called little rocket man’s bluff too.

Lads clearing out whats left of the beer after the weekend

Putin was about as scared of Trump as Jonny Cooper was of the winners of Carlow v Wicklow when he was asked for a reaction at the live TV championship draw five or six years back.

Putin is scared now though, scared big time.

The US wants to see russia bogged down with what they and russia will see as an endless guerilla or terrorist conflict. Zelensky understands his role in this and he’s happy enough to play along. He doesn’t give a fuck about the donbas and its people- he told Ukrainians to get out of there in april and previously told the russian population to go to russia- for the sake of their children, and it’s effectively russian as things stand. The idea of Ukraine liberating it is laughable- they banned official use of the russian language, ‘russian’ politicians and russian media…in some cases before this recent chapter in the conflict started. If the Ukrainian army had a free rein there you could expect the worst.
The off ramp is for the UN to step in, for putin and biden to start talking and for someone to propose peace talks. None of these look feasible though- three agreements have already been scuppered by the west, besides zelensky has ruled out negotiating with putin. The obvious compromise was for an independent Eastern Ukraine with Ukraine itself having access to the ports. This was already agreed, but not implemented.
Things are going exactly as intended- america has simply opened up a second flank in the war in syria…but with Ukrainians to do the dying. Lads on here would be morally outraged if it was any other way.

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How did that happen pal?

A great friend of mine was born with two detached retina’s just out of bad luck.

It is genuinely an awful station. Good luck with it sincerely.

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