Russia Vs Ukraine (Part 1)

Little_Lord_Fauntleroy · August 23, 2022, 1:16pm

post of the year i think from him

Cheasty · August 23, 2022, 1:16pm

Now there’s dishonesty for ya.

Biscuit taken.

Thomas_Brady · August 23, 2022, 1:17pm

I could be wrong but i thought i read something about uptake among Ukrainians being low. And a distrust of vaccines… Be grand tho.

Little_Lord_Fauntleroy · August 23, 2022, 1:18pm

Juhniallio:

estebandaface:

Maybe slow down on the intake until you at least put some semblance of a plan in place for them, fix some of the issues.

Sticking them in to test centres and the City West seems a bit counter productive to me

A couple of things here. The intake of Ukrainians is now quite slow i believe. Also, they are moved very quickly through citywest and off to accomodation and there are very few of them there now. Many that are have specific medical needs and some of these rooms are classed as medical rooms of care. Citywest is now full of people who arent Ukrainian. Britain very much closed it’s borders and many of what would have been ‘their’ refugees have come over here.
As per last year, many of the schools with capacity in secondary were the deis type schools in towns. They are taking the brunt of the load in post primary within dublin. Most secondaries will be able to squeeze some in. I’d imagine a large accomodation centre like trabolgan will have a special arrangement made (buses) as its probably not possible to cater locally. Non of this is perfect but they are the solutions that were found. The government seems to be happy to write cheques but has pretty much peft it all tone department, DCYA as opposed to sharing out the load or making a special task force which has certainpy adversely affected the situation.

DCEDIY

Cheasty · August 23, 2022, 1:18pm

You won’t because you can’t. Because you’re not honest. Like all the right wing charlatans here.

And we know from many years experience just what the likes of you and the right wing charlatans here are like as people.

Yis barely qualify as such.

Watchyourtoes · August 23, 2022, 1:19pm

And you sitting on your hole pontificating here 24/7 claiming welfare for some mental disorder no doubt.

backinatracksuit · August 23, 2022, 1:19pm

What exactly do you mean by a waiting list? Was there a risk that your kids wouldn’t get a place in your local school?
Sorry, this is probably a little off topic now, just wondering, rural schools are generally crying out for kids, often a big influx will net them an extra teacher

The_Most_Infamous · August 23, 2022, 1:19pm

You’re not wrong. I think their uptake is around 25% of the population.

estebandaface · August 23, 2022, 1:20pm

what accomodation?

Doesn’t sound feasible.

This isn’t good enough and it appears you can’t question it

Juhniallio · August 23, 2022, 1:20pm

Little_Lord_Fauntleroy:

Juhniallio:

estebandaface:

Maybe slow down on the intake until you at least put some semblance of a plan in place for them, fix some of the issues.

Sticking them in to test centres and the City West seems a bit counter productive to me

A couple of things here. The intake of Ukrainians is now quite slow i believe. Also, they are moved very quickly through citywest and off to accomodation and there are very few of them there now. Many that are have specific medical needs and some of these rooms are classed as medical rooms of care. Citywest is now full of people who arent Ukrainian. Britain very much closed it’s borders and many of what would have been ‘their’ refugees have come over here.
As per last year, many of the schools with capacity in secondary were the deis type schools in towns. They are taking the brunt of the load in post primary within dublin. Most secondaries will be able to squeeze some in. I’d imagine a large accomodation centre like trabolgan will have a special arrangement made (buses) as its probably not possible to cater locally. Non of this is perfect but they are the solutions that were found. The government seems to be happy to write cheques but has pretty much peft it all tone department, DCYA as opposed to sharing out the load or making a special task force which has certainpy adversely affected the situation.

DCEDIY

Youd forget how many extra things they lumped in when they realised the greens would take everything they were given.

Little_Lord_Fauntleroy · August 23, 2022, 1:21pm

Juhniallio:

Little_Lord_Fauntleroy:

Juhniallio:

estebandaface:

Maybe slow down on the intake until you at least put some semblance of a plan in place for them, fix some of the issues.

Sticking them in to test centres and the City West seems a bit counter productive to me

A couple of things here. The intake of Ukrainians is now quite slow i believe. Also, they are moved very quickly through citywest and off to accomodation and there are very few of them there now. Many that are have specific medical needs and some of these rooms are classed as medical rooms of care. Citywest is now full of people who arent Ukrainian. Britain very much closed it’s borders and many of what would have been ‘their’ refugees have come over here.
As per last year, many of the schools with capacity in secondary were the deis type schools in towns. They are taking the brunt of the load in post primary within dublin. Most secondaries will be able to squeeze some in. I’d imagine a large accomodation centre like trabolgan will have a special arrangement made (buses) as its probably not possible to cater locally. Non of this is perfect but they are the solutions that were found. The government seems to be happy to write cheques but has pretty much peft it all tone department, DCYA as opposed to sharing out the load or making a special task force which has certainpy adversely affected the situation.

DCEDIY

Youd forget how many extra things they lumped in when they realised the greens would take everything they were given.

we are passionate about equality mate

estebandaface · August 23, 2022, 1:21pm

Yes, there was a risk you’d be sent down to Whitegate school which has a terrible reputation and fuck all teachers. It basically shouldn’t even be open. There was a risk you wouldn’t get in to the preschool at all. We’ve had to apply for secondary schools in Midleton and Carrigtwohill already and there are no guarantees

Cheasty · August 23, 2022, 1:22pm

You should probably look into that for yourself. You are a deeply unwell person and demonstrably despise not just yourself but everybody else in this world. Well, except those who seek to destroy it and cause chaos and hardship in it.

Watchyourtoes · August 23, 2022, 1:23pm

I knew you were a moocher.

Cheasty · August 23, 2022, 1:23pm

Cry me a river.

Toughen up.

estebandaface · August 23, 2022, 1:26pm

Keep 'em coming… Fire up the tents

Have they running water and electricity, basic sanitary requirements met?.. fuck it… get them in… MORE

Juhniallio · August 23, 2022, 1:29pm

Accomodation that has become free around this time of year. For example seaside towns that close up for winter. Have @the_limericks put out the feelers around kilkee and you’ll see that many guest houses/small hotels who usually closed around this time are now taking in Ukrainians instead of shutting up shop as usual. Who knows, it might breathe a bit of life into ciuntry towns or Klare hurling.

Around schools not sounding feasible, im sorry it doesnt sound feasible to you. There’s honestly nothing i can do about your closed mindset.

Schools and teachers are very resourceful id find when they want to be and the genuine wish to educate people is powerful. Deis schools in towns have capacity because for years people have turned up their noses at them and pupil numbers were dropping. Post primary has much more fluidity with numbers and capacity because classes are split for options etc so many classes are not full.
None of the above is perfect but its a start.

Thomas_Brady · August 23, 2022, 1:29pm

Period poverty a real concern too.

estebandaface · August 23, 2022, 1:33pm

squeezing some in doesn’t sound like a joined up strategy for integrating these refugees in to our Education System… How many of them have basic English? What will the translator situation be like if they haven’t enough English to be educated? I’m fairly open minded mate.

There needs to a less unilateral solution than just taking them in and seeing what happens.

Until we have proper procedures in place, slow down the bottlenecks in City West and other temporary accomodations, sort out procedures and policies, do a pledged housing drive, get agreements in place, get translators, get school transports sorted.

Flying by the seat of your pants while adding more problems to an already overburdened society won’t help anybody at all.

Juhniallio · August 23, 2022, 1:34pm

Little_Lord_Fauntleroy:

Juhniallio:

Little_Lord_Fauntleroy:

Juhniallio:

estebandaface:

Maybe slow down on the intake until you at least put some semblance of a plan in place for them, fix some of the issues.

Sticking them in to test centres and the City West seems a bit counter productive to me

A couple of things here. The intake of Ukrainians is now quite slow i believe. Also, they are moved very quickly through citywest and off to accomodation and there are very few of them there now. Many that are have specific medical needs and some of these rooms are classed as medical rooms of care. Citywest is now full of people who arent Ukrainian. Britain very much closed it’s borders and many of what would have been ‘their’ refugees have come over here.
As per last year, many of the schools with capacity in secondary were the deis type schools in towns. They are taking the brunt of the load in post primary within dublin. Most secondaries will be able to squeeze some in. I’d imagine a large accomodation centre like trabolgan will have a special arrangement made (buses) as its probably not possible to cater locally. Non of this is perfect but they are the solutions that were found. The government seems to be happy to write cheques but has pretty much peft it all tone department, DCYA as opposed to sharing out the load or making a special task force which has certainpy adversely affected the situation.

DCEDIY

Youd forget how many extra things they lumped in when they realised the greens would take everything they were given.

we are passionate about equality mate

A lovely phrase to rattle off… there was no equality when it came to window boxes. Salads for the south facing only…