Russia Vs Ukraine (Part 1)

Nonsense, NATO didn’t exist in 1941 if a NATO country for example one of the Baltic states is attacked, the principle of collective defence which is enshrined in Article 5 of the Washington Treaty is invoked.

Article 5 provides that if a NATO Ally is the victim of an armed attack, each and every other member of the Alliance will consider this act of violence as an armed attack against all members and will take the actions it deems necessary to assist the Ally attacked.

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Syria all over again

Are any sanctions being mentioned against Belarus in of this?

Putin won’t touch a NATO country. This is about gaining control of the Black Sea and creating a ground bridge around the Black Sea to Moldova. It’s part of China’s silk road plan.

Flesh that out pls

All I can think about in all this is the two apes from the region living in Tipp who both laughed at the possibility of war in Ukraine - the Ukrainian piano teacher in Cashel who was so confident she put her face on the front of the local paper and @carryharrys mate from Lithuania living in Cahir or wherever who also belly ached with laughter at the thought of this.

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You said this last week.

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You can already rail finished goods from southern China to eastern Europe. How does this upping of conflict aid russian/Chinese plans?

It’s nice & cosy in that little head of yours

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I underestimated how weak Xi and Putin see the west. They clearly decided there would be no pushback to taking Ukraine.

Misinformation from the Kremlin?

Nothing has changed on the guerrilla front. Ukraine will continue to fight and he will get bogged down here, one way or the other.

Trying to make predictions out of this seems like a fools errand. Putin is clearly not a rational decision maker.

Gives them a second route from southern China through India and links up major cities like Tehran, the Middle East and Istanbul.

He will install a pro Russian military regime in Ukraine and then pull Russian troops out.

Putin Before War :rofl:

Which does not invalidate the point you raised on a guerrilla war. He is going to be bogged down here. There has been Kremlin supporting leadership in the Ukraine on and off since the break up of the Soviet Union. Twice mass protests brought those regimes down. In order for him to effectively control the Ukraine, he needs a regime he can trust and permanent military oversight. There is clearly going to he a long and sustained Russian presence there.

Trying to make predictions on Putin is pointless, let’s quit before we make any more rash statements.

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Trolling

:rofl:

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