Russia Vs Ukraine (Part 2) - Neocons Strike Back

Are they daycent?

i have yeah. Twice

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So youā€™re taking the word of WYT here?

No. Its common knowledge. Not everthing is reported in the farmers journal

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The clown Prince of Cashel refuses to believe any dregs made it to our shores.

Common knowledge but no self respecting journalist is reporting it?

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Can we sent @HBV to Shannon on a factfinding mission?

Oh come off it. People who whip up resentment against refugees always claim they arenā€™t trying to do so.

Saying ā€œIā€™m trying to whip up resentment against refugeesā€ isnā€™t a very persuasive line, thatā€™s why nobody with serious notions of being taken seriously ever says it.

Is the Audi a pussy wagon?

The wife loves the heated seats, imagine I said I purchased an M5 you would wet yourself through resentment but sure the Ukrainian pimps can have theirs.

Iā€™m not looking to whip up hatred but the chaotic nature of the migration leads to this, and it needs more controls, unvetted migration is bad, because there are bad people

Itā€™s being reported, you just donā€™t want to read it

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Mate. Thatā€™s disgusting and wrong, thankfully authorities intervened.

Border controls being violated is a big claim considering the volumes being displaced at the time.

How have the Ukrainian kids settled at your kids school so far?

Any of these kids settled locally are getting on great from what Iā€™m hearing. The positives seem to be outstripping the awful negatives

I make sure my daughter makes every effort to include the little girl in her class with her friends.

There are language issues, but the teacher is coping fairly well.

Nice try with final line.

I said I hadnā€™t seen it, asked you for proof more than kerb crawling about Shannon.

You really are crawling on the floor here yourself now.

Hero of the left, Chomskyā€¦calls the conflict a US proxy war and urges for a peace settlement. Is he a Russian stooge?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/truthout.org/articles/chomsky-six-months-into-war-diplomatic-settlement-in-ukraine-is-still-possible/%3Famp

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Whether Michael Tracey is a Russian agent or not - and he 99.999999% isnā€™t - is entirely irrelevant.

If Tracey was a Russian agent, which he isnā€™t, heā€™d behave in the exact same manner he does now, and say all the same things.

Therefore itā€™s only the observable reality of what Tracey is that is in any way noteworthy - and that reality is that he is a propagandist for Putin.

Heā€™s also thick as shit and has no real following apart from yourself.

To broaden it out, in the hypothetical event that the entirety of the Republican party were paid agents of Putin - which they arenā€™t - most likely only a select few are - the outcome of what it would be would be very little different to what it is now.

Dig up, Columbo

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Thatā€™s basically everything Iā€™ve been saying

In April 2014, fresh from riots in Maidan Square and the February 22 coup, and less than a month before the May 2 massacre in Odessa, the IMF approved a $17 billion loan program to Ukraineā€™s junta. Normal IMF practice is to lend only up to twice a countryā€™s quote in one year. This was eight times as highā€¦

Ukraineā€™s main problem is that its debt is denominated in dollars and euros. There seems only one way for Ukraine to raise the foreign exchange to repay the IMF: by selling its natural resources, headed by gas rights and agricultural land. Here the shadowy figure of Kolomoyskyy resurfaces, with support from the United States. Recent Senate Bill 2277 ā€œdirects the U.S.Agency for International Development to guarantee loans for every phase of the development of oil and gasā€ in Ukraine, Moldova and Georgia.

Vice President Joe Bidenā€™s son, R. Hunter Biden, recently was appointed to the board of Burisma, a Ukrainian oil and gas company registered in Cyprus, long a favorite for post-Soviet operators. The firm has enough influence over Kiev politics to make prospective gas-fracking lands a military objective. ā€œUkrainian troopers help installing shale gas production equipment near the east Ukrainian town of Slavyansk, which they bombed and shelled for the three preceding months, the Novorossiya news agency reports on its website citing local residents. Civilians protected by Ukrainian army are getting ready to install drilling rigs. More equipment is being brought in, they said, adding that the military are encircling the future extraction area.ā€[6]

But i wasnā€™t trying to whip up resentment. Not everyone is an enemy. I never said anything even remotely controversial but a few lads got awful upset over pretty much nothing and a more jumped on a bandwagon. Thats the way it is here

As i said, Iā€™m very confortable with my opinions on these matters, they arenā€™t remotely fascist or deplorable. Youā€™re trying to make me an enemy for whatver reasons you have to do that.