Russia Vs Ukraine (Part 2) - Neocons Strike Back

This is an interesting Twitter thread imnvho.

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“We aren’t coming to kill you, but to convince you. But if you don’t want to be convinced, we’ll kill you. We’ll kill as many as we have to: 1 million, 5 million, or exterminate all of you.”

You can’t say fairer than that

These are the same “legitimate Eastern Ukrainian concerns over ties with Russia” lads.

The ones with “business” with Russia, now saying they’ll commit genocide to protect it.

Yet it’s all the big bad IMF, World Back and collective “West” that are the problem.

Youre an absolute fanny.

Russia is the problem because they’ve invaded.

The US are a cause of war and as the world renowned authors on geopolitics have attested, they are fighting a proxy war with Russia and using Ukraine to do so - Chomsky, Parenti et al all recognise and are adamant on this if you and headbangers like Bandage and one eye joe don’t want to take my word on it.

You’ve said yourself the problem is with business in the east with ties to Russia - where the imf is coming in and laying down conditions that Ukraine has to abide by , including agri land sales and GM foods been grown ,- this is a cause of discontent.
The Ukrainian people as a whole were against this but your beloved world bank pushed it and then we get an invasion not long after…

No one here is excusing anything, merely pointing out what has been going on the the region. You Neocons are only delighted to hide behind the war to dismiss your part in it.

This gibberish is troubling

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The nickname of the new general putin appointed is general Armageddon. Sounds like a pleasant individual.

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Wanting to stop refugees fleeing war from coming here is controversial. It’s also illegal.

Having an opinion and asking questions is illegal? I didn’t say anything controversial. I haven’t said anything controversial about the war.

You’ve said some controversial things.

Ethnic Russians in Ukraine don’t matter and the West will bring freedom and prosperity to the East are far more controversial things to say than anything i said.

Cheerleading a war is far more controversial than anything I’ve said.

We’re in a very strange place where somebody cheering on war and murder thinks they’re more morally virtuous than someone advocating a peaceful outcome and exploring previous treaties and agreements.

But thats where we are i suppose.

Loads of reasonable people, experts in politics chomsky et al have similar views to me, are they controversial?

I’m responding in good faith, i know you’ll pick apart the post and find something you can try make me look bad with and you look good and ignore the rest, you just can’t help yourself, like you did to start again this morning

We are required to receive refugees. It’s illegal to to refuse to accept refugee. You want to stop refugees coming to Ireland, that’s a controversial opinion.

Ireland has stopped accepting refugees from other countries

1991 vote for independence results

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You are assuming ethnic Russians want to be in Russia. Big leap. Unless you are counting those famous referendums again

I’d imagine after how the Russians have indiscriminately killed the people they are allegedly rescuing this would be at least as convincing now

He keeps referring to “ethnic Russians” without saying why. I asked why but he won’t tell me. Will you ask him there and see if he tells you?

Utter gibberish, weasel words.

Sorry bud - Russia bad , everyone else good.

That’s the language you sheep understand?

The political landscape has shifted since 1991? How come its not controversial to go back 30 years for a political event that suits your view but not 8 that doesn’t, thats terrible

A democratically elected pro russian government was overthrown

You’re still lying.

Defending the murderer.

Tell me where the lie is there? It was an internationally recognised election

This is from 2021

Noam Chomsky is a gobdaw.