Russia Vs Ukraine (Part 2) - Neocons Strike Back

“Prove my deranged bullshit wrong”

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These lads choose stupidity, there’s absolutely no point in trying to help. They’ll just get angry and defensive.

Why did they arrest him? What has he done exactly?

Failing to prevent criminal activity… Unlike WhatsApp and snapper face and other social media outlets

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Oh so presumably they’ll all be arrested too?

Any minute now I’d say

They are backing their team while they think its raining, its piss showering them

Your original point was that there was a peace agreement that was or could have been reached two years ago and prevented the war in Ukraine, that it could still be reached now. That’s complete bullshit and it shows you’ll believe anything. You also said millions were dead which shows the level of grasp you have on the situation.

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This has been widely reported. The agreement was essentially the same as minsk ii, which Russia, Ukraine, the U.S. Europe, and the U.K. had already signed. Angela Merkel and Francois Hollande were caught admitting that minsk ii was nothing more than a ploy to build up the Ukrainian military. It’s extremely childish to keep denying reality just because you dont like it.
The agreement was initialed by both sides, prior to formal signing by zelensky and putin.

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So you believe Putin was going to call a withdrawal from the territory they had just taken over?

If this peace agreement meant a full demilitarisation by Ukraine then Zelensky would have been a special type of idiot to agree to it.

Putin wanted to make peace mate, why do think he signed a peace treaty, the west forced him to attack, Putin is a reasonable man warr isn’t in his interests, nobody actually wants war except for the Americans, the west forced Putin to commit to the destruction of Ukraine as a nation, he has no other option because NATO was advancing on him, what do you not get about this?

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Putin was only in Ukraine to ask for directions on how to get away from Ukraine

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https://twitter.com/jayinkyiv/status/1828008938131902971?s=46

That’s what they get for escalating things by invading Russia

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This is because the US vetoed a peace agreement, Putin wants peace but the biden and the EU won’t have it according to our resident headbangers.

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Eh, the peace agreement was two years ago… We’ve moved on and are happy to bleed the Nazis dry now

Is glas actually taking the piss out of himself here?

We invade, you surrender under our terms. :man_shrugging:

It appeared an easy choice to be swayed by Boris & Co reading your attached examples.

“ Immediately after the outbreak of war, Russian and Ukrainian negotiators began negotiating an end to hostilities. While the world and the Ukrainians were in shock at the Russian invasion, Moscow tried to achieve Kyiv’s surrender at the negotiating table. “

“ Russia demanded that in the event of an attack, all guarantor states agree to activate the assistance mechanism. This would have given Moscow veto power to override the defense mechanism. In addition, Moscow rejected a Ukrainian demand that guarantor states could establish a no-fly zone over Ukraine in the event of an attack.”

Moscow demanded that the Ukrainian army be reduced to 85,000 soldiers – about one million soldiers are now serving there. Ukraine proposed a troop strength of 250,000 soldiers.

Opinions also differed on the amount of military equipment. Russia demanded to reduce the number of tanks to 342, while Kyiv wanted to keep up to 800. Ukraine only wanted to reduce the number of armored vehicles to 2400 units, while Russia demanded to keep only 1029 units. “

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Those are the authors interpretations of negotiating positions, proposals and opening gambits. They weren’t what was agreed.

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