Scottish Cup and other Celtic stuff

Interview with Strachan below. Looks like he’s a plan ready for next season and it’s interesting that he talks of Celtic being physical, something we’ve lacked a little since MON left.

If Celts can’t take heat of battle, it’ll be like Foreign Legion: They’ll be out

An improvement in standards is Strach’s vow to ensure Celtic retain the SPL trophy

by Ronnie Cully

GORDON STRACHAN today fired the first warning shots to his green-and-white army that playing for Celtic next season is going to be like serving in the Foreign Legion.

If you can’t hack it, you will be left behind. There will be no room for passengers when they march into the next campaign.

The gloves are coming off for the man who took over two years ago and who this weekend hopes to lead his troops to their fourth trophy success in the Tennent’s Scottish Cup Final.

The Foreign Legion is famed for its esprit de corps, a unity and strength of mind and body which makes it almost impossible to defeat.

Strachan wants the same qualities to underpin the side he is remodelling for next season, and explained he is already putting into operation his plan to achieve this goal.

The Celtic manager’s priority is on shooting down Dunfermline on Saturday.

But his forward planning is already up and running as he explained: "Next season does not start on Sunday for me. It started with the signing of Scott McDonald and Scott Brown.

"I know precisely how we are going to play, and if you can’t hack it, it is going to be like the Foreign Legion - you are going to be left behind. Next season there will be a way we are going to play and a standard we are going to perform at.

“There is going to a physical side to how we are going to play, plus a team shape we are going to have. I know what they are and if you can’t do that, you will fall by the wayside. As I said, like the Foreign Legion, if you can’t keep up, we will leave you.”

Strachan denies that, after two years in charge, his my-way-or-out-the-way’ approach is a reaction to any slacking over the final months of this season.

He emphasised: "No, it’s not that. You asked me if I’m ready for next season and I’ve told you I’m ready now.

“I’ll be on the training field with the players and I already have thoughts in my mind what I am going to do. It’s not a hard-nosed approach - just a philosophy for next year.”

The candour and raw determination will have Celtic players and supporters wondering if it was a character replacement and not hip resurfacing which the fired-up boss underwent a fortnight ago.

He may not be back to full mobility as he continues to get around on his crutches, but Strachan’s mind is clearly moving at a pace. Success on Saturday would see him match the trophy haul posted by Martin O’Neill in his first two seasons in charge.

But the present incumbent is aware of the danger complacency poses to his side and is not about to fall into such an avoidable trap. That’s just one reason why he threw down the gauntlet to his fringe players at the weekend to stake a claim for cup final consideration.

The fact only debutant Teddy Bjarnason stood out at Easter Road was not a huge disappointment, nor a real surprise.

Strachan said: "It’s not a problem because I know the team I want to play at Hampden.

"I was wanting decisions to make from last weekend’s game, and none hit me. Teddy did well, but he is too young for this one. He has put himself in the position of being in the squad, though, and he might be a sub.

"The rest of the things that happened on the pitch? In terms of individuals, let’s just say nothing surprised me. The mentally tough were tough. The players were players. The ones who are not as mentally tough showed that.

"The ones who had the desire not to lose showed that. The ones who do not have the same desire as them showed that. So, nothing changed.

"I need to have winners here. I understand people are different. Some are leaders and want to win, some like to be led to be winners.

“But if you’re not either then you drain the life out of others.”

Strachan will not allow that to happen and that message will be delivered loud and clear.

He said: “When it comes down to it, I have to pick a team who have the attitude they are not going to lose and, at the same time, a team which can play.”

Strachan will not be lulled into a false feeling of security based on the fact Dunfermline have suffered the bitter disappointment of losing their battle against relegation.

The Pars already have the consolation prize of a place in next season’s Uefa Cup, courtesy of Celtic pre-booking their spot in the Champions League qualifiers.

Again, any mental laxity would open the door to opportunism by the underdogs. And that would be an unforgivable error on the part of the 10-1 on favourites.

“I watched Dunfermline in their final league game on Saturday and they will be disappointed with their performance,” mused Strachan.

“It’s difficult to deliver a performance when you are not competing for something. Rangers showed that on Sunday. They got their Champions League place and lost their final two games. On Saturday, we are all competing for something - so let’s see who can compete best.”

It’s the one domestic trophy Strachan has not yet delivered for Celtic and the prospect certainly appeals.

He said: “It’s a chance to do the double. Such opportunities do not come round that often, and you have to do all you can to take them when they do. It is a week to be enjoyed, but only if we can get back to our best and win.”

First things first here. Although I class Celtic as a side with a vast European pedigree, they need to ensure they win their domestic league again next season. Now we all know how Rangers will play under Walter Smith. They’ll have absolutely no flair or ambition but they’ll be extremely physical, rigid in structure and very organised.

Obviously we are Celtic and we don’t sacrifice our traditional attacking, flowing football just because the Huns are going to try kick us around the park. Equally though we need to be able to mix it with these scumbags and combine pace and imagination with power and aggression. That’s why I was so enthused by the Scott Brown signing because he’s skillful, a goal threat from midfield, a neat passer but is also a tough little fook who loves a tackle.

I thoroughly agree with your reference to the Martin O’Neill team. I think since Christmas any victory Celtic have had has been by the odd goal, bar one which was the 4-1 win in the Cup at Livingston. Under O’Neill Celtic regularly thumped sides 4 and 5 nil. They might have been 2-0 up after 15 minutes after headers from either Mjallby, Balde, Sutton, Hartson, Varga, Valgaeren or someone because they were so physical and simply overpowered teams in the air. Once this advantage was created it then allowed Moravcik, Petrov and Larsson to play their stuff - it was a cracking combination of power and skill.

So far under Strachan we have lost some of that physical edge but we’ve become far more technical. Teams in Scotland are sitting very deep and we find it hard to break them down on occasion as we tend to be quite narrow with Naka on the right even though he’s predominantly left footed and vice versa with Aiden. This means that we play through the centre a lot and don’t hit the by-line as much as we used to. Even though we often own the ball for entire games we don’t have the same aerial and physical threat and so we’re not totally destroying teams like under O’Neill.

As a result I’m pretty pleased with Strachan’s comments. It looks like he’s planning to give us that mix that I think we need.

Yeah I think he’s identified what’s needed from the team to retain the SPL which must be paramount, automatic group stages again if we win the league next season AFAIK.

At the moment we have McManus, Naylor, Lennon (departing), Brown (arriving) and probably Pressley who can mix it. Caldwell doesn’t lay people out, nor does Wilson. Gravesen hasn’t been as tough as I’d expected. Riordan, McGeady, Miller, Naka are all quite slight. Big Jan can put himself about - like he did at Old Trafford - but he hasn’t done it in a while.

Kennedy (especially) and O’Dea also have that physicality that’s required.

Praying Kennedy’s continues to come on and will become a powerhouse at the back for us. I expect Bobo to leave. There’s rumours that Pressley will be moved on too.

Forgot a load of players from that list obviously. O’Dea is strong enough but at the moment he’s more Valgaeren than Mjallby. Mjallby was an average player before MON took over and turned him into a beast. Hoping Strachan can do the same with Darren.

Lads on thehuddleboard are playing a game of ‘pretend’. This time it’s ‘Pretend It’s August 1997’ and the day Larsson gave the ball away on his Celtic debut and Hibs scored the winner from the resulting move. This post is a classic:

'I’d just like to say that although I was diappointed with the result today and the pathetic performance of our new “star” Larsson, I’m chuffed at today’s other big news.

Princess Di, Queen of Hearts, has found a new love in her heart. It’s Ken Doddy Fayed.

I would like to wish them well in their new romance and hope they have a great time on their yacht and have a nice weekend in Paris at the end of the month.’

:slight_smile: :slight_smile: :slight_smile: Quality :slight_smile: :slight_smile: :slight_smile:

Right, the CL’s out of the way.

The Celtic team could be absolutely anything on Saturday.

What I think/fear Strachan will play:

Boruc;
Caldwell; Pressley; McManus; Naylor;
Nakamura; Lennon; Hartley; McGeady;
Miller; Vennegoor of Hesselink;

What I would play:

Boruc;
Perrier-Doumbe; Kennedy; McManus; Naylor;
Nakamura; Lennon; Jarosik; McGeady;
Riordan; Vennegoor of Hesselink;

I don’t think he’ll play Riordan anyway. I don’t see many of last week’s team playing at all judging from his comments above. I’d say we’ll see:

Boruc

Doumb
Pressley
McManus
Naylor

Naka
Lennon
Hartley
Gravesen
McGeady

Vennegoor of Hesselink

I’d have no real arguments with that. McManus and Caldwell hasn’t worked well so far. Strachan is a big believer in partnerships - remember how McManus and Caldwell played every pre-season game together last season. Every single game with everyone else rotating. I can’t disagree with him on that score.

I don’t think Hartley is good enough from what I’ve seen (though he was much improved against Aberdeen) but I’d say he’s likely to play anyway.

I thought his comments were more directed at Gravesen than Riordan.

I use my words carefully but I fooking hate Thomas Gravesen. He better not be playing on Saturday.

Careful indeed Bandage. You tiptoed around the issue there.

I don’t see the fuss about Riordan. He’s not as good as Miller up front. That’s not something to be especially proud of.

I think he’s better than Miller. He scored on Sunday too. I’d play him up with Jan rather than a 5 in midfield with Gravesen in it.

Reading between the lines of your last post I have a sneaky feeling you don’t like Gravesen so I’m not surprised. He did ok to get the ball for his goal but it was a brutal shot, should never have been a goal. Miller can’t shoot either but I think he offers us something different, though now that I have to justify my statement I’m struggling to think what that might be.

I just think people are giving Riordan too much credit for performances he hasn’t produced. He’s improved in everyone’s estimation by not playing.

I’d rather play with 10 than have Gravesen in the team. That should clarify matters. hi5

Did you see that Celtic aren’t allowing Jim O’Brien to play in the final?

I think it’s the right decision. Imagine he banged one in from 30 yards or if there was a penalty shoot-out? If he missed he’d be accused of doing it on purpose and I think he’d feel uncomfortable taking one against Celtic anyway.

People still haven’t forgiven Scott McDonald even though he’d never have known he’d be playing for Celtic in the future. Jim O’Brien has to come back to us so it’s better for him that he doesn’t get asked to score against us.

As well as that it’s Celtic who are important here - he’s our player so it’s obvious we shouldn’t allow him to play against us. O’Brien got great experience at Dunfermline but he should never be allowed to harm Celtic while he’s on our books.

Welcome to the Bandage and Rocko thread ;D

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New kit out today:

[img width=440 height=294]http://www.celticfc.net/NetFrame_Client/1_0_0/Pages/DisplayImage.aspx?resourceID=b00f46b3-1e0e-412d-a5c9-d82fed34b814

Wanna get one with no sponsor name on it. U usually have to wait a few weeks for these, yeah?

I think it’s a belter of a kit and I like the Lisbon 1967 references too. Some say we should move on and stop referring to it but I disagree. Great players and achievements should be remembered proudly and I’m delighted the kit is a replica of the one the Lions wore 40 years ago today.

[img width=400 height=257]http://www.cscn.no/images/LisbonLions.JPG

I believe we sought permission to wear it on Saturday but the Hunfermline chairman won’t allow it.

rocko, raven, piper, dancingbaby do you lads anything about the sponsorless hoops?

There’s a lot of Lisbon Lions stuff on the BBC website today:

When Celtic ruled Europe:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...ic/6614941.stm

Pictures:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/scotland/6681001.stm

Inter scarred by Lisbon:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...ic/6682433.stm

Lennox recalls Lisbon glory:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...ic/6678277.stm