Seeking members for the Limerick Chippers Social Group

[quote=ā€œThe Runtā€]On foot of seeing Tipptops post just as I was deciding what to have for lunch, I ended making the short trip to Donkey Fords, John St, Limerick.

Order: Chips & Two Battered sausages

Food quality: 5

This is the level all chippers should aspire to. The chips were just perfect, neither too soggy nor too dry and nicely crisp at the edges. The sausages, while smaller than your usual battered sausage were very tasty indeed.

Value for money: 5

Best Chips in the world: 1.90
Battered Sausages x 2: 1.20

Total : 3.10

How could you go wrong at that price?

Staff appraisal:

These are old pros at the chip shop game, and to give them a rating would just be down right dis-respectful to such majestic purveyors of the salt cellar.

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Efficiency of service: 5

I was in the premises for no longer than 2 minutes and in that time 2 customers were served before me. This is one finely tuned machine.[/quote]

No longer should Donkey be used as an insult but as a adjective for ruthless quality and efficency :clap::clap:

Iā€™m going to bring this version into my lexicon of office bullshit

You sicken me. All of you.

[quote=ā€œJulio Geordioā€]No longer should Donkey be used as an insult but as a adjective for ruthless quality and efficency :clap::clap:

Iā€™m going to bring this version into my lexicon of office bullshit[/quote]

If someone comes with a good suggestion at your next team meeting you can say ā€œThatā€™s just Donkeyā€ or a shit suggestion can be ā€œjust not donkeyā€

Donkey Fordā€™s will be hard bet when crowning the Limerick Chippers Social Groupā€™s ā€œLimerick Chipper of the Year 2009ā€ā€¦

Also, it could be the ideal site for our annual meet upā€¦

Was last night any good?
Ah ya it was Donkey

Last night any good?
Ah stop will ya I was Donkey Forded (full up after a good feed of it)

This could catch on :clap:

Every time I read this thread I say to myself ā€¦next time Iā€™m down home Iā€™ll have to take a trip to Donkeys as its being years since I was there.

Yet again it slipped my mind last weekend but Iā€™m delighted to hear standards are still as high!

[quote=ā€œPhil Leotardoā€]Every time I read this thread I say to myself ā€¦next time Iā€™m down home Iā€™ll have to take a trip to Donkeys as its being years since I was there.

Yet again it slipped my mind last weekend but Iā€™m delighted to hear standards are still as high![/quote]

What part of Limerick are you from Phil?*

*Iā€™ve probably asked you before.

[quote=ā€œThe Dunphā€]What part of Limerick are you from Phil?*

*Iā€™ve probably asked you before.[/quote]

Corbally originally. Iā€™m gone about 10 years now though.

You were ran out of it more like!!

He used to live next door to St.Maryā€™s secondary schoolā€¦ Pervert.

[quote=ā€œThe Runtā€]Ah they would alright, but the lobster pot would be the only one I can think of that would be open at 2am and in the city center.

What did you make of Saturday night?[/quote]

Was in there pre-pub myself saturday night, had a regular chip, battered sausage x 2 and a half pounder with cheese. I was ravo going in there due to me not having a chance to eat all day, it set me up for a night of pinting let me tell you.

Now thereā€™s a feed:thumbsup:.

Good article this about the origins of the chipper in Ireland

[SIZE=ā€œ4ā€]How fish and chips enriched a nation[/SIZE]

IRISH VISITORS to Italy will no doubt have noticed that its national dish is not burger and chips. You do not swing onto Romes Via del Corso to be met by the smell of boiling oil. You do not sit down for dinner, and choose an antipasto of batter burger and onion rings. Which has always made it somewhat curious that the Italians in Ireland became renowned for their chippers, and that many of the names that were serving fish and chips half a century ago will still be serving snack boxes to peckish or drunken Irish this and every weekend.

It began sometime in the 1880s, when an Italian, Giuseppe Cervi, stepped off an American-bound boat that had stopped in Cobh and kept walking until he reached Dublin. There, he worked as a labourer until he earned enough money to buy a coal-fired cooker and a hand-cart, from which he sold chips outside pubs.

Soon after, he found a permanent spot on Great Brunswick Street (now Pearse Street), where his wife Palma would ask customers Uno di questo, uno di quello?, meaning one of this and one of the other? In doing so, Palma helped to coin a Dublin phrase, one and one, which is still a common way of asking for fish and chips. The shop, meanwhile, had launched an industry.

Much of what is known about the history of the chipper is detailed in the wonderful work of John K Walton, a professor of social history at the University of Central Lancashire. In 1994, he wrote a book, Fish and Chips and the British Working Class, 1870-1940 , and it is an invaluable addition to the admittedly small library of chipper histories.

In it, we learn that, by 1909, there were 20 fish and chip shops in Dublin, serving a population of only 290,000. This, though, was nothing compared with the size of the trade in British cities, where the relationship between chippers and Italians originated.

In 1905, there was a fish and chip shop for every 400 citizens of Leeds and Bradford.

The chipper had first become popular in the north of England, as a happy amalgam of fried fish and cooked potato trades that had grown separately during the mid-1800s. It is not clear which area, and still less which individual, deserves the credit for bringing about the momentous marriage of fish and chips, writes Walton. This is a matter of murky and probably insoluble dispute. However, it is guessed that it happened sometime between the 1860s and 1890s.

It was in Scotland that the Italians began to make the fish and chip trade their own. Why they were so taken by the business isnt clear, though Walton suggests that it may have been because they saw the fish and chip shops of London as they passed through there on their way north. With Italians leading the way, Scotland was home to 4,500 chippers by 1914. In Glasgow alone, an estimated 800,000 fish suppers were being sold every week.

Naturally, the shops often doubled as ice-cream parlours.

With the Italian immigrants to Ireland, then, came the chip shops. These were not the first Italians to make an impression in Ireland. Stucco workers had been imported to work on the big houses of the country; the tiling, glasswork and ornamental woodwork in Belfasts glorious Crown Bar were created by Italians moonlighting in between working on Catholic churches.

Others were brought here as musicians and dancers.

But for individual impact few Italian immigrants could rival Charles Bianconi. Originally a purveyor of gilded frames, Bianconi realised that there had to be an alternative to lugging the goods around on his back. So, in 1815, he set up a coach service, with the first route running from Clonmel, Co Tipperary to Cahir, Co Waterford. By the middle of the century, his routes criss-crossed the island and he had become a very wealthy man indeed. By the time Bianconi died, in 1875, the railway was well on its way to killing the coach business, but he had been responsible for the countrys first integrated transport system.

Still, it is through their chippers that the Italian population in Ireland served up an example of how a relatively small number of newcomers could imprint themselves on the national culture, psyche and, in this case, stomach.

Almost all of the Italian chipper families in Ireland come from a district of six villages in the province of Frosinone, and they originally came here as the subdivision of land at home led to mass migration from rural Italy. Families such as the Borzas, Caffellos and Macaris are still the names on the Guinness-blackened tongues of Saturday nights.

These Italians came to Dublin via Paris, then Scotland or resorts in the south of England, where they would no doubt have seen the success their compatriots had had in the fish and chip trade there. In Ireland, they managed to replicate that success, although some regions proved hard to crack. Walton points out that, given how the migration chain would have gone from Scotland through the north of Ireland, it is odd that Belfast provided inhospitable soil for Italian fish friers in the early twentieth century. Belfast remained resolutely keen on oysters and shrimps instead of fried fish. The post-pub trade in oysters has clearly not lasted. Instead, it was Dublin and Cork in which the chippers first took hold, although its worth noting that Irelands well-known fish and chip shop, Beshoff, was set up by a Ukrainian immigrant, Ivan Beshov, who had taken part in the 1905 mutiny on the Potemkin and fled west through Turkey and London, until he landed in Ireland where he was first arrested and interned in the Curragh camp on suspicion of being a German spy.

Once he became free, he set up a chip shop with the help of Italian friends, and had to restart it after it was destroyed in a bombing of Dublins North Strand by the Germans in 1941. It went on to become something of a Dublin institution. When he died in 1987, his birth certificate said he was 102 years old, but he had insisted that he was 104.

The Chinese in Ireland, also a small population for most of the twentieth century, had an impact on the taste buds and street fronts of a great many Irish towns and villages. The Chinese migrants of the 1950s to 1970s came mostly from Hong Kong, leaving their homes because of economic pressures brought about by a collapse in the local rice farming industry.

They travelled through Britain and on to the north of Ireland, because their status as Commonwealth citizens allowed them free movement until a change in the law in 1962 limited the flow of immigrants.

With them came the Chinese restaurant that had grown in popularity in Britain during the post-war years. Irelands first opened in 1957, in a house on Leeson Street. There are now about 6,000 Chinese restaurants in the country. The first Chinese restaurant opened only a year after the first Indian restaurant, the Golden Orient, was also opened on Leeson Street. Its proprietor, Mike Butt, was an East African Indian who had come to Ireland from Kenya, and upon opening he found that most Irish people just wanted to order steak. So he served steak, but the Golden Orient survived as an Indian restaurant for those looking for a little culinary adventure.

THE NUMBER OF INDIAN RESTAURANTS did not explode in the way that Chinese restaurants did, and certainly not as they did in the UK, although this is largely down to how little Asian migration there was to Ireland. Still, the two countries share certain trends. Even now, when most people in Britain or Ireland go for Indian food, they are probably eating in a Bangladeshi restaurant, as it is they who have popularised the cuisine of the subcontinent of which their country used to be part.

Although, this is not always true. Some are run by Pakistanis.

All of these culinary offcuts might seem like a bit of a diversion, but they also serve as peculiar reminders of how a small influx of migrants even a single migrant can have an impact on a national culture that couldnt possibly have been foreseen at the time.

The Irish ( & Other Foreigners) From the First People to the Poles by Shane Hegarty is published by Gill and Macmillan

:rolleyes:

Everyone knows that Donkey Fords was the first chipper in Ireland.

[quote=ā€œPikemanā€]Good article this about the origins of the chipper in Ireland

[SIZE=ā€œ4ā€]How fish and chips enriched a nation[/SIZE][/quote]

:clap:

Iā€™m seriously considering handing in my gun and badge hereā€¦

The Hierarchy have done little with the platform we the members have provided them with.

A condensed report of all Limerick chippers was promised but not delivered.

Reports from Rival chippers in rival counties are not accepted, how then can we progress and sustain our high levels of quality if we stay isolated ??

No social gathering of field operatives has been organised.

An a.g.m is badly requiredā€¦

[quote=ā€œChocolateMiceā€]Iā€™m seriously considering handing in my gun and badge hereā€¦

The Hierarchy have done little with the platform we the members have provided them with.

A condensed report of all Limerick chippers was promised but not delivered.

Reports from Rival chippers in rival counties are not accepted, how then can we progress and sustain our high levels of quality if we stay isolated ??

No social gathering of field operatives has been organised.

An a.g.m is badly requiredā€¦[/quote]

Steady on there CM, we donā€™t want to lose any members here. If anything we should be recruiting. As chair of the group i have taken on board your concerns and can assure you that they will be considered moving forward.

Regarding the condensed list of reports, itā€™s a work in progress. Thereā€™s only so many chippers i can visit on a weekly basis and others will have to help shoulder that burden. I have a report from the wonderful Kebabish if people wish to see it? Though please note i didnā€™t get the standard Chips and two battered sausages.

Iā€™m putting my foot down regarding no reports from chippers outside Limerick. Sure everyone knows Limerick has the best chippers in the world.

The social gathering will happen and all suggestions concerning a location will be considered.

[quote=ā€œThe Dunphā€]Steady on there CM, we donā€™t want to lose any members here. If anything we should be recruiting. As chair of the group i have taken on board your concerns and can assure you that they will be considered moving forward.

Regarding the condensed list of reports, itā€™s a work in progress. Thereā€™s only so many chippers i can visit on a weekly basis and others will have to help shoulder that burden. I have a report from the wonderful Kebabish if people wish to see it? Though please note i didnā€™t get the standard Chips and two battered sausages.

Iā€™m putting my foot down regarding no reports from chippers outside Limerick. Sure everyone knows Limerick has the best chippers in the world.

The social gathering will happen and all suggestions concerning a location will be considered.[/quote]

Just the re-assuance we all needed, and just before christmas too! 2010 is gonna be mega for Limerick chippers.If the Lonely planet can be the catalyst for unprecedented tourism in a shit hole like cork, imagine what Dunphs report can do for Donkeyā€™s and co!!

Over a month and no post on this thread?

Dunph really has been resting on his laurels. This thread should be bang up to date at this time of year so that immigrants returning home from England for the holidays will beware of the latest happenings on the Limerick chipper scene.

Also I look forward to reading The Dunphs annual report.

Donkey Fords.