Should divisional teams be in all Ireland club championships?

No it’s not. There’s nothing unfair about the kerry championship. How many times has the kerry intermediate champions followed up with a senior championship the following season?

When was the last time a Tipp club won an all Ireland? Was it toom?

Haven’t a clue but the All Ireland series is indicative of the strength of a single club, not a county championship.

I don’t know, you tell me?

So Tyrone have never had a single club strong enough to win an Ireland, because they’ve got a strong championship?

If you’ve such a strong championship, winning and all Ireland should be a piece of piss

How so, it’s over a decade since a Tyrone club did back to back, it’s 1979 since a Tyrone club did 3 in a row.

It’s a meritocracy, not just one super club completely dominating the scene.

So you thinking you’re good enough to win three in a row, none of them are on merit?

What?

It’s very difficult to come out of Tyrone for a start.

You said it’s hard to win two in a row in Tyrone because it’s a meritocracy.

So by your argument, ballyhale winning two in a row is a sign of a weak Kilkenny championship where title are given out not earned?

Because that’s your argument

Agreed. It’s wrong. No divisional teams full stop.

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I didn’t say that, I said Tyrone football is a meritocracy.

I wouldn’t know much about Kilkenny club hurling but if one club (or a small number of clubs) are dominating club hurling over a sustained period of time then it wouldn’t be a good look for the county championship as a whole.

Templenoe have 4 Kerry seniors and were junior last year

De La Salle have been in two Munster Club Finals this decade, winning one and losing one. They were also Munster Club champions in 2008. De La Salle made a better fist of it against Ballygunner in the Waterford Final this year than either Sixmilebridge or Patrickswell did, the last two Sundays.

You keep bringing meritocracy into it. I’m not sure using a political system as an analogy for the relative strength of a club championship is relevant.

A meritocracy is based on merit.

There is no merit to the Kerry championships, it’s a system to keep the status quo in tact, to hold an unfair advantage at intermediate and junior level in the AI series.

I would look at counties like Tyrone, Mayo and Donegal as examples where there is a fair and healthy competition at club level. I don’t see it in Kerry, I see them manipulating it so they can get an advantage over the other side.

Sure wasn’t their a big scandal a few years back when the county board wouldn’t put Dingle through in Munster because they were missing a few key players even though they were meant to be the representatives?

How is merit decided mate?

What would be far healthier for Kerry football is splitting Tralee and Killarney down further, is it two clubs in each town and having a club championship with 16 actual clubs.

They’ve won 6 in a row without a single one score game and an average winning margin of over 10 points in those 6 finals

An even playing field, Kerry is anything but.

You’re not very well informed on Kerry football. Austin Stacks, Kevin O’Rahilly’s and John Mitchels are the Big 3 in Tralee. You’ve also got Na Gaeil in Tralee, club of Jack Barry.