Nope, Iâm just taking Jarryâs own words from Twitter there and musing on what of the little bit of Devâs Ireland he took on. It appears as though it was the cover up of child sexual abuse- something you have acknowledged now finally as you stated that the PIRA clipped wronguns back in the day but nothing was done to Jarry Adamâs brother.
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Hollow words when you bury your head in the sand at FG and their paedo enablers.
I wasnât born in Devâs Ireland.
One aspect I certainly would not have taken up on is the cover up of child sexual abuse, something that Jarry Adams did.
I have discussed that on the relevant topic. A topic that you have you bumped again today, similarly you are quoting posts for yonks ago now to try and deflect from the fact that your personal hero covered up child sexual abuse.
Yet you vote FG who were responsible for mass child abuse in the Irish state.
As I said, your words are very hollow and empty and your motives in using child abuse victims as political football are as callous and cynical as they get.
Did Michael Noonan learn a lot from Dev?
I vote for the GOP.
I donât know what Michael Noonan learned from Dev. Michael Noonan is not my hero though. Your personal hero is someone who amongst other things, covered up child sexual abuse. That says a lot about you as a person.
Incredible. You wonât address the Michael Noonan issue, a former leader of your political party, who is alleged to have used his office, an office of the state to enable and facilitate paedos. But bizarrely, that doesnât interest you. Youâd rather just use child abuse as a political football than respecting all victims and their sufferings.
I wonder what all of the victims of Graceâs abuser would make at the horrific way you are downplaying their suffering and trauma because Michael Noonan is affiliated with the political party you support.
Iâm not in a political party.
Your personal hero, and the subject of this thread, is Jarry Adams. You have stated that the PIRA would clip wronguns back in the day, but nothing was done to Jarry Adams brother. Indeed even in 2000, when SF did not accept policing, Jarry Adams brother had directly admitted to his brother about him being a paedophile. You held the PIRAs actions up as a virtue, but have no issue with Jarry Adams letting his brother away with it.
Your personal hero covered up child sexual abuse. That is your level as a person.
You are a major FG supporter.
So much so that you are happy to use child abuse to score political points but when shown something much more serious on the FG side refuse to comment or acknowledge it.
Now you can continue to insult victims of child abuse by demeaning their sufferings due to political bias or you can call out Michael Noonan. If you continue to ignore this matter we can merely conclude you think FG ministers have the divine right to help and enable paedos related to the party.
Your political party used its office and power to facilitate and enable paedos, you then use child abuse victims as a political football and rub salt into the suffering and trauma they faced.
Two retired figures is neither here nor there to the future of both parties.
The facts are that Jarry Adams was aware in 1987 that his niece had accused his brother of sexual abuse. He admitted this in court.
It is also a fact that on this thread that @Fulvio_From_Aughnacloy said that the PIRA would;
Nothing was done to Jarry Adams brother. 13 years later in 2000, after denying these allegation, he admitted to them. The PIRA and SF still did not recognise policing and yet nothing was done in the PIRA courts that @Fulvio_From_Aughnacloy tried to put forward as a virtue. Subsequently Jarry Adams tried to muzzle his niece from speaking in public.
This is very much in line with Devâs Ireland where things went on behind closed doors. Jarry learned from that and took that into his own life. @Fulvio_From_Aughnacloyâs hero covered up child sexual abuse.
Youâre still showing yourself up to be happy for FG politicians to protect and enable child abusers.
Iâm just pointing out how nasty and cynical your use of child abuse victims as political footballs is.
I donât care for Michael Noonan and it is not on topic.
What is on topic is Jarry Adams, your hero, and how he admitted to doing nothing about his brother in 1987 despite you saying that the PIRA ran their own courts. Your personal hero covered up child sexual abuse.
You donât care for the child abuse victims of the people that Noonan protected and enabled. It is on topic, you just choose to ignore it as youâre quite happy for FG politicians to help and enable paedos.
We finally get it, you donât care about the victims, you only wish to use them as political footballs.
I donât care for FG or Michael Noonanâs legacy.
Jarry Adams covered up child sexual abuse and he is your hero. You are on that level.
You donât care about the victims of his actions. You only care about using child abuse victims as political footballs. That is crass and it should be called out.
Are you suggesting that Jarry Adams niece was trying to score political points?
Jarry Adams acknowledged that he knew in 1987.
You have stated that the PIRA clipped offenders.
You are happy with child sexual abuse being covered up if it is from your hero.
I think Gerry Adams point was that Dev and Establishment Ireland left northern nationalists alone and defenceless against a violent and oppressive state. You of course ignored that and tried to deflect by using child abuse victims to score political points.
You then admitted to not caring about child abuse victims and their trauma and suffering.
As are you if it is FG politicians. I donât try to use child abuse victims as political footballs though.
Jarry Adams said he took ânot very muchâ.
The little bit he must have taken was covering up child sexual abuse.
Itâs a pretty simple point. You can articulate a point on northern nationalists whilst at the same time not being a pathetic weasel who ignores the cover up of child sexual abuse just because it was your personal hero.
Itâs a pretty simple point.
You donât care about child abuse victims. You only wish to use them as political footballs. You have said as much, it would be folly of me to try and give any legitimacy to the points of someone who merely seeks to use the trauma and suffering of victims in an insincere and politically motivated manner.
When you go after Michael Noonan with the same vigour as Gerry Adams then we can have a mature conversation of it, when you merely want to use trauma and suffering of victims to score points then I wouldnât lower myself to engage.