Sinn Fein - Populism and Partionism

[Fulvio_From_Aughnacloy]

Our resident right wing nutbag is being completely misleading and delving into misinformation and misrpespresentation.

SF have generally supported the 12.5% CT rate in the 26, they have always complained about MNCs like Apple and others effectively paying 0%.

Here’s an article from 2015 with SF president Gerry Adams supporting the retention of 12.5% as the CT rate in the 26.

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Sinn Féin leader Gerry Adams has insisted his party is pro-enterprise but said it will increase Capital Gains Tax and Capital Acquisitions Tax if in Government.

Mr Adams addressed a breakfast briefing of Dublin Chamber of Commerce on Tuesday and said he was eager to dispel the myth that Sinn Fein was anti-business.

He said: “We are looking for a fair tax system. We want to standardise the tax relief system. The tax reliefs are available to those who have the expertise, the money or the wealth or the support.

“We want to see that standardised and we also have argued for a third rate of tax. Anyone who could argue you could build public services and reduce your tax… How could you do it? It doesn’t make sense.

“What we have argued is for a third rate of tax of 48 per cent on income earned over €100,000. We have also argued for an increase in Capital Gains Tax and Capital Acquisitions Tax and we have argued for a second home charge for those who are lucky enough to have a second home. That tax should be increased.”

Mr Adams insisted Sinn Féin wanted a progressive tax system, as opposed to the “stealth taxes” he claimed were being imposed by the current Government.

He said if his party was elected to Government they would take 200,000 low income earners out of the Universal Social Charge net while in office.

Mr Adams said: “We need to revolutionise how we gather public money and how we spend public money.”

The Louth TD said Sinn Féin wanted to support and encourage small and medium enterprises and would provide proposals to do so in the upcoming Budget.

He told the meeting Sinn Féin was aware of how crucial foreign direct investment (FDI) was to the Irish economy.

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Mr Adams told business leaders he recognised the value of FDI and insisted his party was intent on supporting multi-nationals coming to Ireland.

He said: “In fact we believe we are much more ambitious than the Government for what can be achieved through FDI.”

“We believe more work needs to be done to increase links between Irish indigenous business and FDI.”

Mr Adams said Sinn Féin has been consistent on the need to maintain the 12.5 per cent corporation tax, “at this time”.

He said: “We are actually battling with the British government to transfer various fiscal powers to the Assembly in the North including corporation tax. We are arguing that that should be harmonised across the island.”

Corporation tax is 20 per cent in the North of Ireland but will fall to 19 per cent in 2017.

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Now why has our resident right wing nutbag delved into trying to distort reality to his agenda. It’s very Trumpian of him.

Sinn Féin ‘pro-business’ but will raise capital gains tax

[glasagusban]

@Cheasty

Sinn Fein are prepared to say literally anything to get what they want, which is power, and power forever.

Same as the other big two parties so really.

[Fulvio_From_Aughnacloy]

SF have supported retaining the CT rate at 12.5% for well over a decade now, the right wing spin doctors will try their best to create a false narrative here.

[Ashman]

Are they a socialist party then ???

[glasagusban]

Strange position for a leftwing party really.

[Cheasty]

Now this guy has become the forum’s chief lackey for corporate hucksters.

You couldn’t make it up.

“Won’t somebody pleeeease think of the MNCs?”, say the Shinnerbots.

@Fulvio_From_Aughnacloy

Ireland’s reliance on MNC’s is toxic, they are beholden to them and wanting to make sweetheart deals with them. It’s not good when they have that bargaining power. A fair proportion of their employees are highly paid/skilled migrant employees who only further add to the rental market crisis.

If MNCs want to take advantage of what Ireland has to offer they should pay their fair % of corporation tax which they are not doing at present.

[Ashman]

Anyone who thinks SF will do anything mad in power is living on cloud cuckoo land .

[Biff_Egan]

“MNCs pay no tax in Ireland”
“Ireland is screwed without MNC tax revenue”.

[Fulvio_From_Aughnacloy]

@Ashman

Are they a socialist party then ???

It’s not a policy shift. You can draw your own conclusions on what it means but supporting the 12.5% CT rate is a long held position for SF.

[Ashman]

Answer the question

[Cheasty]

@Ashman

Anyone who thinks SF will do anything mad in power is living on cloud cuckoo land .

In terms of economics, they’ll probably be even more craven to the rich than FG or FF. In terms of housing, they’ll probably be worse. O’Broin himself has already shown his rhetoric on housing is just that, he’s as NIMBY as they come. In terms of everyday politics, they’ll likely be more useless than FG or FF ever were.

What they will do is bring in the sort of “politics” that Trump, the Brexiteers and the far right throughout Europe have done. It will be extreme nationalist, it will dismiss truth and, and it will dramatically ramp up the air of threat against anybody who challenges them throughout Irish politics and society as a whole. Sinn Fein will make sure, without specifically saying, that people who challenge them realise there’s a violent threat lurking in the background. And that’s one thing they won’t actually have to lie about. It will be there. The sort of goons who intimidate Varadkar and Harris in their homes are grist to SF’s mill. SF are cut from the same cloth.

[Fulvio_From_Aughnacloy]

@Biff_Egan

“MNCs pay no tax in Ireland”
“Ireland is screwed without MNC tax revenue”.

The point being made is they should have to pay the CT rate, where many of them weasel their way out of through loopholes and agreements.

[Fulvio_From_Aughnacloy]

I notice your very heightened towards SF once again. Go and give yourself a little rest.

People can make up their own minds on that and you can continue to get triggered by SF.

[Fulvio_From_Aughnacloy]

Our resident right wing nutjob doesn’t seem to well informed. This is a long held SF position back from when he was one of their biggest supporters. Then again when you have a complete lack of conviction in your “beliefs” you’ll be made look a little silly.

It’s a bit like a virtue signaller pretending to be all against sexual violence towards women who is still a huge supporter of a sex predator like Bill Clinton and makes rape jokes about cancer victims.

[glasagusban]

Sure they may as well get a go at it anyway.

[Cheasty]

@glasagusban

Sure they may as well get a go at it anyway.

Some people said the same thing about Trump. Some people said the same thing about the Brexiteers. Some people say the same thing about Le Pen.

[glasagusban]

Yeah, I think that’s nonsense and I don’t see any of those in SF.

[Cheasty]

But you’re not looking very hard.

[glasagusban]

You look very hard.

[Tim_Riggins]

Ireland collects a grossly disproportionate amount of corporation tax, an issue regularly cited as an issue for the finances of the country. The bulk of that is from MNCs.

Yet at the same time it’s claimed that Ireland doesn’t collect enough corporation tax.