Pat Kenny fairly spluttered when oâbroin asked him was he calling him a criminal. Iâd love to see a legal letter go into marconi house
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SF seem to held to a seriously high set of standards no other party on this island.
I suppose thatâs what happens when finally a left wing party rises to their level of popularity on this island
It was fairly obvious he wasnât calling him a criminal and he said so, but OâBroin was just looking for a soundbite.
So every party was at it, and lied to their voters and potential voters. Not one politician I have ever met could I call honest. I will vote for an honest politician, but none of them are.
The âleft wing partyâ thatâs against property tax 
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SF make a great play on âFFGâ and emphasising they are different
When they are caught acting the goat they point of that FF and FG do it too.
Sweet Jesus
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Thatâs a bizarre take.
The reality is the Irish establishment get outraged by things SF do and then suddenly the tones changes when itâs pointed out FFG do the same.
Itâs a bit of a non story is the reality, the usual chaps got whipped up into a rage because they could use it against SF and then had to summer down when it was pointed out all political parties engage in it.
Some people are we pains to making assumptions on the unknowns as to what SF would do in power while ignoring the knowns of what FFG have done in power. Strange position to take
FFG, Lab and Greens can all be judged very poorly on their record in govt. That doesnât stand up to any of the parties who have not been.
Micheal Martin telling RBB that there was no bailout and his policies would force people to emigrate is the level of self awareness FFG have.
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I dont think itâs a non story at all. Itâs fucking shameful. Whatever way you look at it, pretending to be someone your not when calling to someoneâs gaff in order to con them is a disgrace.
Itâs weird that you think it shouldnât matter because SFFGreen were all at it.
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I just think itâs a non story. What harm has been done?
In my memory there has never been a story about Sinn Fein you havenât considered a non story.
Thatâs because you post not to debate but to 100% shill for Sinn Fein. Therefore nobody should take a blind bit of notice of what you say.
- deceiving the electorate is a serious issue and thats before we get to the DP issues.
- the fact that other parties were at it doesnt excuse the shinners
- amazingly not a single political presstitute managed to pick up that this had been going on for donkeys years before they discovered the shinners were at it.
- varadakar amazingly emerges with credit for fessing up about it (his assertion that it stopped when he took remains to be seen) and also for while doing his mea culpa, throwing the uriah heep like simon harris under a bus.
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at least hes consistent, unlike many of those who âpivotâ on here
Heâs consistent because he doesnât have a functioning brain. He took positions on a forum in 2011 and has literally never changed position one iota because in his mind, to do so would involve a loss of face for his internet persona, which is the only thing of value he has in life.
I donât give a toss about my internet persona, Iâm actually interested in debating, and like a normal human, I have changed my opinions on many things over the years. Anybody who doesnât do that isnât interested in debating.
i love a good debate myself and how my opinions change over time would be along the lines of that famous maynard keynes quote and not for shits and giggles on the internet, its normally after serious consideration.
you have a lot more in common with fulvio in your debating style as your just as inflexible when it comes to your worldview
But sure how could that be true when I have changed my views on lots of things? My worldview would be considerably different on a lot of stuff from what it was ten years ago.
Parties deceive the electorate all the time. Promising to pay student nurses, Frankfurtâs way or Labourâs way etc.
The harm is that it fosters a win at all costs, fuck the public, who gives a shit, fuck ethics and morals attitude amongst the people who aspire to run our country.
There was nothing illegal about Michael Martinâs wife taking 5 grand off a developer but it was fucking wrong.
Itâs pathetic on your part that you donât think thereâs anything wrong with it just cos SF were involved. If it was just FFG youd be having a field day.
your worldview has changed inexorably over the last 10 years, but when youâre in any debate, your worldview at that moment in time is immovable