Six Nations 2009

[quote=“myboyblue”]Shocking bullshit in that article from Jones, he’s the biggest spoofer I’ve ever come across when it comes to rugby analysis. I’d give more credence if Paul Ross started speaking on the game.

Club Intl tonight, weekend starts here. Cant fucking wait for it.

The english are coming…[/quote]

Now that we’ve matured as a nation, the buildup has been pretty low key
I’m not overly confident to be honest, you could just imagine them playing out of their skins and us succumbing to some stage fright. That would make for a very tight game…

It’ll be very tight anyway I’d say. England are coming to keep it that way, and they have the power to do so. They may be unadventurous but they’re dogged. I still think we’ll have enough to open them up though.

[quote=“W.B. Yeats”]Now that we’ve matured as a nation, the buildup has been pretty low key
I’m not overly confident to be honest, you could just imagine them playing out of their skins and us succumbing to some stage fright. That would make for a very tight game…[/quote]

I wouldn’t be getting carried away with their performance against Wales. Wales as they tend to be, got a little cocky and let England in the game. I can’t see Irelands defence getting caught for a try like Wales did. Toby Flood will make a difference, but not enough of a one IMO. Their back row isn’t frightening and in Bortwick they have possibly the worst playing 2nd row in the 6N. Cueto wouldn’t frighten me either.
i expect this new found team work in the Ireland team to go into over drive this weekend. Kidney would still view beating the English as important as beating France on any given day, notwithstanding the fact that we are in with a shout of the championship.

I actually think Ireland are decent odds for this.

[quote=“myboyblue”]Shocking bullshit in that article from Jones, he’s the biggest spoofer I’ve ever come across when it comes to rugby analysis. I’d give more credence if Paul Ross started speaking on the game.

Club Intl tonight, weekend starts here. Cant fucking wait for it.

The english are coming…[/quote]

Please tell me its Friday and I just didnt know about it?

Club Int is on Fri anyways

[quote=“dancarter”]Please tell me its Friday and I just didnt know about it?

Club Int is on Fri anyways[/quote]

I thought the Club game was on tonight? Fuck it, where did I get that idea from?

Ah fuck it, I’m wrong, sorry Dan, you’re right.

http://www.rte.ie/sport/rugby/sixnations/coverage.html

On another note, I’ve always liked that Club jersey.

[quote=“caoimhaoin”]I wouldn’t be getting carried away with their performance against Wales. Wales as they tend to be, got a little cocky and let England in the game. I can’t see Irelands defence getting caught for a try like Wales did. Toby Flood will make a difference, but not enough of a one IMO. Their back row isn’t frightening and in Bortwick they have possibly the worst playing 2nd row in the 6N. Cueto wouldn’t frighten me either.
i expect this new found team work in the Ireland team to go into over drive this weekend. Kidney would still view beating the English as important as beating France on any given day, notwithstanding the fact that we are in with a shout of the championship.

I actually think Ireland are decent odds for this.[/quote]

I suppose I can just imagine the English and the Johnson fucker loving ruining our chances by beating us at home. Hopefully the French will do us a favour on Friday night.
What’s the handicap on Ireland?

Rog

Well-grounded athletes feeling at home in Croke Park
GERRY THORNLEY

RUGBY IRISH PLAYERS WITH GAA BACKGROUND:
MOST LIKELY theres never been such a Gaelic-infused Irish rugby team to take to a Six Nations game as this Saturday, and that seems particularly appropriate as Ireland face up to a second and last encounter with England at Croke Park amid this brief window in Irish sporting history.

Nothing embodied Irelands unforgettable 43-13 win over England two years ago than Shane Horgan fielding Ronan OGaras cross-kick for the coup de grace.

Indeed, the Croker effect must only add to the pain which the likes of Horgan and Girvan Dempsey are feeling at missing out so far this season.

Like Dempsey, Saturdays replacement fullback Geordan Murphy is another whose brilliance under the high ball was at least in part honed on GAA fields in his formative Newbridge years, and in this regard perhaps nobody betrays his GAA roots more ably than Rob Kearney.

I was lucky in a way that the two seasons differed, so as soon as the rugby season was over I was in to the thick of the Gaelic season, he reflects, having started playing Gaelic football at seven or eight with Grange National School, progressing to Cooley Kickhams at under-14s.

In his last of three years on the Louth minors they were beaten by Dublin at the Leinster semi-final stage in a replay, having come within a kick of reaching the final.

If we hadnt been beaten by Dublin I would have played at Croke Park which would have been unbelievable, wouldnt it? he says, still nursing the sense of regret. But it wasnt to be. We were beating them in the first game and they equalised in the last minute of the game. Not even a minute to go. It was the last kick of the game. Then in the replay they beat us by two points, and we had a good side too. It was a killer.

That was the time before Leinster academies, and while I wouldnt say Gaelic was my first love, it was a big, big sport for me at the time.

Indeed, his last game for Cooley Kickhams was in the Louth county final, a game for which he put off his Leinster Academy contract. We were beaten by the local team from St Pats, and there was big rivalry between those two clubs.

It comes as no surprise that he played his Gaelic in midfield, where that ability to pluck high balls out of the sky was fine-tuned.

Comparing a rugby fullback to a GAA midfielder, Kearney says: Theyre probably the two most similar positions on both teams. Fielding in both positions is probably the most important attribute you can bring really. Ive been practising it from a young age so Id bloody want to be good at it.

Of course, a crossover between sports can only be of benefit to the sport which a player ultimately specialises in, be it the professionalism and single-minded determination which golf and swimming also fostered in Paul OConnell, or soccer for the likes of Ronan OGara and Jerry Flannery, but Gaelic football is perhaps the closest in terms of its skills set.

I think evasion is a big part of Gaelic football too, says Kearney, adding: Youve got your support play and probably the biggest thing of all in Gaelic football would be your peripheral vision, and unlike rugby youve got players coming at you from all directions.

Brian ODriscoll didnt play any rugby until he went to secondary school in Blackrock; Gaelic football was his preferred game until that point. He played in primary school with Belgrove, but predominantly with Clontarf GAA club, and recalls modestly: Actually, the year after I left to go to Willow in sixth class, they (Belgrove) got to Croker to play in a final. So I was the only one holding them back!

The Irish captain moved between midfield and the half-forward line, and was a bit of a points scorer, but I suppose I had a bigger engine in those days too.

I would have played a lot of GAA back in those days, far more than any other game from about the age of seven to 12, he recounts, and has no doubt it helped his rugby. Definitely in the hand-eye co-ordination. You can see the guys who are good footballers, people like Shaggy (Horgan) and Kearney and Geordan that are so good under the high ball.

Theres not many sports that you have to catch the ball above your head. So I think it does count for a huge amount and being spatially aware as to getting from point A to B to catch a ball, and to find space.

Given so many of this team and squad have played Gaelic in their formative years it adds to the buzz of representing Ireland at the home of the GAA. ODriscoll concluded: I think it gives us a great appreciation for what it means to Ireland as a whole and I think it makes us feel all the more honoured to be allowed play there because we know the history that goes with it. And this is the last time we play England here, so enjoy it while we can.

God bless the GAA and all who sail in her.

[quote=“W.B. Yeats”]I suppose I can just imagine the English and the Johnson fucker loving ruining our chances by beating us at home. Hopefully the French will do us a favour on Friday night.
What’s the handicap on Ireland?[/quote]

(plus eight) Ireland 10/11
3/10 to win.

[quote=“caoimhaoin”](plus eight) Ireland 10/11
3/10 to win.[/quote]

I assume that is minus 8?

I must say i take pride in articles like that.:smiley:
Hopefully the coaches at Cork Con and PBC will read it and stop tellin my young fellas to stop playing GAA, as it “will ruin their physique”. Thing is none of these guys are qualified in strength and conditioning, Gaelic football for guys playing at the lower leels (and visa versa for rugby backs and flankers) actually helps a rugby player, as is mentioned above. Obviously any guy on a contract is on a different level.

Ya, sorry, of course.

[quote=“caoimhaoin”]I must say i take pride in articles like that.:smiley:
Hopefully the coaches at Cork Con and PBC will read it and stop tellin my young fellas to stop playing GAA, as it “will ruin their physique”. Thing is none of these guys are qualified in strength and conditioning, Gaelic football for guys playing at the lower leels (and visa versa for rugby backs and flankers) actually helps a rugby player, as is mentioned above. Obviously any guy on a contract is on a different level.[/quote]

You have children? God help us all.

No, the young fellas i coach.
But fuck you.:smiley:

Tisnt Kevs parenting skills you’d want to be worrying about, its corncrake’s youngsters I’d be worried about. God help them. :stuck_out_tongue:

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How exactly does GAA ruin one’s physique? Honest question.

For Rugby that i Turrene. They believe you burn too many calories (thus in turn muscle and bulk) when training and playing GAA.

There is some value to that, but the funny thing is the weight programmes GAA players do these days would be very similar to that of a Rugby back. Not many rugby front 5 (who would do alot of heavy power and strength training) would play GAA anyway.