Six Nations 2011

caoimhaoin · February 8, 2011, 1:29pm

No Marcus Horan, should be safe enough.

Bowe is a fucking humongous loss though.

Servat was in devestating form last week, probably the worlds form Hooker right now.

The_Runt · February 8, 2011, 1:35pm

Hey, rugby fuckers, are France not a serious price at 8/11 for the weekends game?

caoimhaoin · February 8, 2011, 1:45pm

Ya, not bad at all.

The_Runt · February 8, 2011, 2:01pm

I expected the to be closer to 4/7.
I don’t know if Ireland have it in them to produce the massive performance that will be required to beat France.

The_Puke · February 8, 2011, 2:49pm

the problem with the french is you just don’t know with them, they are extremely inconsistent as a team…That teams looks top class on paper alright and i would fancy them to win given our injuries and players lacking form but for all the French looked impressive they let the scots in for three fairly soft tries

dancarter · February 8, 2011, 8:16pm

I don’t think Ireland’s grandslam was all that huge of an achievement that you could put it up there with some of the achievements of the guys mentioned…Granted we do have a relatively small pick but that Irish team was knocking at the door for 5 years previous and was hugely experienced at the time along with some younger lads who made the step up, Bowe, Ferris & Heaslip, given the history attached to it and the fact we had to bridge a huge gap to win it it will be remembered fondly over here but I doubt too many of the rest of the rugby world will be waxing lyrically about it in years to come…It was a bit achievement to finally win it but the style of rugby in which we played to win it was nothing much out of the ordinary and Wales and England could well have beaten us that year…It also has to be remembered that Wales have won 2 grand slams while we have had a so called golden generation with rough the same pick in playing numbers…If we had actually beaten France in teh first game in Croke Park in 2007 and went on to win the Grand Slam, I think that it would have been held in far higher regard than the 2009 season, especially given the way we hammered England that year and actually played some very good rugby throughout the competition…But i do rate Kidney very highly, he is a very intelligent chap and has did wonders with Munster and so far has done a solid if unspectacular job with Ireland…He has built up a squad with far more strength in depth than was there with EO’S but in saying that there is nowhere near enough depth to challenge for a WC

Kidneys legacy will be decided in the next 2 years as this & the 2012 6 nations & the WC will tell alot…There is definately another grand slam to be won and we need a decent showing at the WC…There is actaully a decent enough chance of him getting the Lions job with a strong enough showing in 2011, eddie was odds on for the job til the WC disaster in 2007, but I have the feeling that if he keeps doing a somewaht reasonable job with England Johnson will get it given he is a lions legion…

Tend to agree with your comments re GS. It was in the post. Kidney definitely brings the best out of players though and I think the belief he brought to them was a key part in their winning it. You havent mentioned the fact though that he brought 2 HEC to Munster as well as probably his best achievement in winning U19 world championship in 1999, an unbelievable achievement in light of limited playing numbers and size of our players at that level relative to SH nations. He has effectively won everything available to him to win as a coach.

dancarter · February 8, 2011, 8:18pm

I wouldnt back France at evens away to any team in the 6N bar Italy, as any point in time. Savage savage quality but they have blown up so many times over the years when they looked like they were going to dominate. They missed 24 tackles on Saturday, Scotland made 10 linebreaks and scored three tries. Any other team woudl have lost. But that fraility in defence will see them beaten more often than not.

Wouldnt back Ireland either mind!

The_Puke · February 8, 2011, 8:20pm

I didn’t mention the Heinken cups due to the fact his question was more specific about the Grandslam and how it would rate against other International coaches…Whatever about the 2 heineken cups the consistency and the amount of big games munster won under his is phenominal in fairness to the man…

Mullach_Ide · February 8, 2011, 8:48pm

It was more his standing as an International coach, it was to do with a discussion I had with 3 leinster season ticket holders at the weekend.
They just dismissed him outright as the Irish coach, claimed that Ireland had under-achieved since he had taken over from Eddie O’Sullivan.
Starting raving about Sir Clive and Sir Ian, Bob Dwyer etc
Then again, later on in the conversation, they claimed that Ireland would never have a better chance to beat one of the SH teams in the SH for the 1st time ever in this year’s WC…

The_Puke · February 8, 2011, 8:52pm

Wouldn’t say he has been an huge success but he hasn’t under-achieved either, barring our defeat at home to the Scots last year it is hard to think of another game we would have been fancied to win under him that we lost…But as I said earlier this 6 nations and the next along with the WC will be the making and breaking of him

The_Runt · February 8, 2011, 8:57pm

Cheers Dan

twiceasnice97 · February 8, 2011, 11:05pm

if kidney picks o leary we will spend the day scrambling to try to hold on to the ball in midfield as damien traille mows down brian o driscoll who will be getting man and ball at the same time but he will because he just doesnt rate reddan which appears totally unfair at this stage considering the respective form of the two players

Bandage · February 8, 2011, 11:41pm

I’ve been saying it for years at this stage but Ireland need to pick the scrum half that passes the ball quickest and most accurately. All this ongoing bollox about O’Leary bringing size, strength and ‘almost being a 4th back row’ player ignores what is the most important requirement for a scrum half. I’m appalled that he’s picked for Ireland on a regular basis. Paris last Spring should have been the death knell for his international career.

caoimhaoin · February 9, 2011, 12:06am

I’m agreeing with you on your selection criteria for scrum half, but at times some of the alternatives have just been so fucking shit he’s had to be picked. That is not the case now, and i’d be picking Isaac Boss to be honest, i feel he has a bit of both. I know he has limitations, but they all fucking do, we don’t have any Mike Phillips hanging around. He has impressed me the most this season in his fleeting appearances. Think right now he has the best overall package.

myboyblue · February 9, 2011, 1:31pm

Loooooooooooooooook
Fads
BOD
Dorsh
Earlsy
Jonny
TOL
Church
Besty
Rosser
DOC
POC
SOB
Wally
Heaslipy

Crons
Courty
Leo
Leams
Redser
ROG
Paddy

The_Puke · February 9, 2011, 1:33pm

Disappointed to say that I called it right :unsure:

caoimhaoin · February 9, 2011, 1:42pm

wtf is up with the retarded use of nicknames (that don’t exist for the most part).

TO’L is not needed with that BR.

treaty_exile · February 9, 2011, 3:15pm

complete and utter bull, and about what I’ve come to expect from leinster season ticket holders.
kidney’s GS team were not easy on the eye, but you can’t ignore the impact of the law changes on the game over his tenure, it has a huge bearing on how he asks his team to play and the players he chooses.

Mac · February 9, 2011, 3:47pm

Ah this is getting to be a pure joke now. Leamy instead of Jennings? I won’t even bother going on about TOL again. People used to joke a while back about the Ulster quotient and needing to have at least 1 Ulster player on the team at every opportunity. The same thing seems to apply with Munster players but instead of 1 it’s always 5 now. Apparently form counts for nothing anymore. I hope France steamroll Ireland by 30 or 40 points.

The_Puke · February 9, 2011, 3:53pm

Mac in anti-munster and overreaction shocker :rolleyes: