Stuff of the decade

Things
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[quote=“caoimhaoin”]The young people of Ireland (i’m going 16-24 here) have been spoilt, they haven’t much of a clue about work. And this is not some old man preaching, i’ve seen it through work. Incompetent in many cases, college life for many prepares them for f-all, and we are now heading the way of the States where the college degree you do means f-all.

Thats utter bollox for the most part. Vast majority of people I know worked their way through college. Young people in general are far more clever at saving money than your ‘generation’ (presume your 28-30?? :rolleyes:) e.g. music sharing, films online, starting up businesses etc. Just cos IBEC spout that line doesnt mean its true. Agreed that there is a different between being book smart and clever. There is an art to passing exams but surely further education is to be applauded?

Personally i’m sick of Irish people patting ourselves on the back for our education system, to me its a load of shite. The LC is outdated and favours a certain type of intelligence (there is at least 7). Bar a few notable exceptions (a few IT’s, Ul etc) 3rd level does nothing to prepare young people for the real world.

Irish system is a hell of a lot better than UK - over regulated - teachers assessed to the eyeballs, giving answers to students for exams so school’s rating isnt affected. UK system is shocking and a warning to those who want more performance mgmt of our education system. US is all about how much money you have. Of course the Irish education system could be improved including the LC. But the fact that our third level is not a closed shop n comparison to the UK (students with massive debt from the moment they graduate), US (only open to those with parents who can pay) is to be applauded. Have to say I wouldnt agree with the UL system of marking students against one another.

Then you have the youth who don’t want to work at all, and were getting 204 yo yo’s a week a week for the privilage of doing f-all. Personally i’m over the moon they are getting fucked.

Dole was probably too much in some cases. Entire social welfare system needs reform not stupid blanket cuts. Vast majority of young people want to work, are ambitious and want to do well. There isn’t an inbuilt welfare mentality by and large in Ireland to the extent of the UK where entire towns are getting employed by the State. This could change with budgets such as Lenihan’s that leave people with no hope.

Your over the moon that these people are getting fucked :rolleyes: Maybe you should get your priorities in order, €4bn into one bank Anglo Irish, pensions to Fingleton, Fitzpatrick and all the other cronies who caused this mess which the young lazy people will have to fix. IBEC saying young people are lazy, why the fuck do we care what these clown think? Could these young lazy fuckers be anymore retarded that some of the IBEC fucks that have run the country into the ground. Not to mention their own businesses.

Ireland isn’t as fucked as we thought a year ago, but we certainly have a bit of pain to go. I have felt since i came home that Ireland was in transition, between the foolish Celtic Tiger attitude and a modern intelligent self sufficent company. We are still clearly closer to the idiot Celtic Tiger times in terms of what we need to live day to day (materialistic), but i have some, a very small little bit of some, hope for the future, and that we can learn from our mistakes and our greed.

Hey buddy, I have nothing to do with Sean Fitzpatrick and his clowns and their flawed corrupt business model that bankrupt the country. And there is another 4 million people here that didnt either. The mistakes of a few fucked the country for a generation.

I know your struggling now, and feeling let down, but try and put yourself in someone elses shoes. You have it piss easy fella, believe me. And so do i, so get over yourself, and either get yourself out working, if that means serving pints and being a janitor in a hotel, then do it. Work makes you feel good, and you’ll learn alot from working, no matter what the business or the job.[/quote]

Yep I want to work. Claiming dole sickens me. It aint piss easy either. Just shit

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[quote=“KIB man”]
Yep I want to work. Claiming dole sickens me. It aint piss easy either. Just shit[/quote]

Thats utter bollox for the most part. Vast majority of people I know worked their way through college. Young people in general are far more clever at saving money than your ‘generation’ (presume your 28-30?? ) e.g. music sharing, films online, starting up businesses etc. Just cos IBEC spout that line doesnt mean its true. Agreed that there is a different between being book smart and clever. There is an art to passing exams but surely further education is to be applauded?

What the fuck? Your better at ripping off music? You idiot. I do it, we all do it, i was doing in 1999ish, what the hell is your point? And IBEC - Who said anything about them? I’m making up my own mind from experience, very recent experience as well.
Exams, or a students abilities should be judged over a period of time, and many factors should be taken into consideration, like what a person is good at, suited to, not what is the “cool” thing to get into at the time, it was BIS when i was in college. The points system is flawed IMO. Your good at memorising a load of shit from a book, well done KIB. But i know people far smarter than you, that can’t do that.

Irish system is a hell of a lot better than UK - over regulated - teachers assessed to the eyeballs, giving answers to students for exams so school’s rating isnt affected. UK system is shocking and a warning to those who want more performance mgmt of our education system. US is all about how much money you have. Of course the Irish education system could be improved including the LC. But the fact that our third level is not a closed shop n comparison to the UK (students with massive debt from the moment they graduate), US (only open to those with parents who can pay) is to be applauded. Have to say I wouldnt agree with the UL system of marking students against one another.

I want our own system to be better, other than learning from their mistakes i don’t think we should be giving a flying fuck about education in England or the US. I think we should develop our own, and take the best from other countries like Germany, Sweden, France, Canada or such places.

Dole was probably too much in some cases. Entire social welfare system needs reform not stupid blanket cuts. Vast majority of young people want to work, are ambitious and want to do well. There isn’t an inbuilt welfare mentality by and large in Ireland to the extent of the UK where entire towns are getting employed by the State. This could change with budgets such as Lenihan’s that leave people with no hope.

I was talking about the specific % who don’t want to work, stop twisting what i’m saying.

Your over the moon that these people are getting fucked Maybe you should get your priorities in order, 4bn into one bank Anglo Irish, pensions to Fingleton, Fitzpatrick and all the other cronies who caused this mess which the young lazy people will have to fix. IBEC saying young people are lazy, why the fuck do we care what these clown think? Could these young lazy fuckers be anymore retarded that some of the IBEC fucks that have run the country into the ground. Not to mention their own businesses.

Hey fuck you, stop twisting again, i specified who i was delighted were getting fucked, lowlife scumbags who live off the dole and never do a stroke, or want to.

On your other points, Sean Fitzpatrick should go to jail, we all know that. And maybe this new hard nose the government MAY have grown will see some fucker go down. I’ll be delighted at that too. My priorities though are me and my family, my friends, the people i work with and my GAA club. You should worry about your own priorities, either go travelling, or contribute to the country. Just because you don’t have the dream job at 24 or whatever you are doesn’t mean you can’t earn a living.

Hey buddy, I have nothing to do with Sean Fitzpatrick and his clowns and their flawed corrupt business model that bankrupt the country. And there is another 4 million people here that didnt either. The mistakes of a few fucked the country for a generation.

Your blaming everything on a few people. I blame the 6 or 7 million people who lived and voted these clowns in over a 20 year period. Blam ourselves KIB, and as soon as we all realise this then we can move on and try and do something about it. Sean Fitz is only a name, he’s only a cherry on top, but we let the most corrupt rise to the top, us, nobody else.

But i believe strongly in starting at home, do what you can do yourself, get the basics right before you start preaching about governments, banks blaa blaa blaa. Work, volunteer, study…anything, but get involved in life here, or fuck off to Australia and elsewhere, and maybe the world will wake you and your ilk up a bit.

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[quote=“caoimhaoin”]What the fuck? Your better at ripping off music? You idiot. I do it, we all do it, i was doing in 1999ish, what the hell is your point? And IBEC - Who said anything about them? I’m making up my own mind from experience, very recent experience as well.

[B]An example of how innovative young people can be. Daft set up by lazy students too - countless other examples. Young people are lazy is just a shite generalisation. Some examples?? Some are spoilt, some are lazy, no doubt - others use their brains to get by whereas before young lads used to get dogs abuse and shite pay on building sites. The laziest crowd I ever came across in Ireland were the ‘hard working’ kind your on about.

The notion of getting loans to go on a J1 and then not bothering to work when offered is one I heard of lately and it shocked me. But there were lazy cunts around in the 50s and 60s too no doubt.[/B]

Exams, or a students abilities should be judged over a period of time, and many factors should be taken into consideration, like what a person is good at, suited to, not what is the “cool” thing to get into at the time, it was BIS when i was in college. The points system is flawed IMO. Your good at memorising a load of shit from a book, well done KIB. But i know people far smarter than you, that can’t do that.

Points system is flawed but put up some constructive points on how it can be improved. Entrance exams for courses based on personality type tests? I personally dont believe in them personality type reports. Last company I worked in spent a fortune on them. Decent enough for discussion but personalities evolve imo and can change.

I want our own system to be better, other than learning from their mistakes i don’t think we should be giving a flying fuck about education in England or the US. I think we should develop our own, and take the best from other countries like Germany, Sweden, France, Canada or such places.

Any ideas from any of those countries you have mentioned that will improve our education system?I have experience of the US and UK ones.

I was talking about the specific % who don’t want to work, stop twisting what i’m saying.

A pretty small % then I reckon. Social welfare system needs to be reformed so people are incentivised to work not better off at home. Always will be leeches unfortunately but in the greater scheme of things means fuck all.

Hey fuck you, stop twisting again, i specified who i was delighted were getting fucked, lowlife scumbags who live off the dole and never do a stroke, or want to.

Same as above. You seem to have more anger towards welfare frauds than how bankers and their greed destroyed a nation. Your taking the easy option being led by the media. A couple of days after a decent Prime Time expose on corruption between bankers and legislators, the indo (online, I dont buy the rag) runs with the headline ‘Rise in Foreign Nationals claming Welfare’. Again system needs reform but wouldnt come close to Anglo bail out and NAMA if it ran on for eternity

On your other points, Sean Fitzpatrick should go to jail, we all know that. And maybe this new hard nose the government MAY have grown will see some fucker go down. I’ll be delighted at that too. My priorities though are me and my family, my friends, the people i work with and my GAA club. You should worry about your own priorities, either go travelling, or contribute to the country. Just because you don’t have the dream job at 24 or whatever you are doesn’t mean you can’t earn a living.

Your blaming everything on a few people. I blame the 6 or 7 million people who lived and voted these clowns in over a 20 year period. Blam ourselves KIB, and as soon as we all realise this then we can move on and try and do something about it. Sean Fitz is only a name, he’s only a cherry on top, but we let the most corrupt rise to the top, us, nobody else.

But i believe strongly in starting at home, do what you can do yourself, get the basics right before you start preaching about governments, banks blaa blaa blaa. Work, volunteer, study…anything, but get involved in life here, or fuck off to Australia and elsewhere, and maybe the world will wake you and your ilk up a bit.[/quote]

Thats right, its all our fault. Seanie Fitz was democratically elected by the taxpayers bank :rolleyes: I’m woken up, its the likes of you that aint. Blaming us all for the actions of a few is FF mantra. Remember to vote them in again Kev.

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[quote=“sid waddell”]10 hurling matches

10 Offaly v Cork 2000
9 Kilkenny v Tipp 2002
8 Limerick v Waterford 2001
7 Wexford v Kilkenny 2004
6 Waterford v Cork 2004
5 Limerick v Waterford 2007 (AI semi final)
4 Kilkenny v Tipp 2009
3 Galway v Kilkenny 2005
2 Waterford v Cork 2007 (draw)
1 Cork v Wexford (draw) 2003

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This whole pay per view is ass backwards. The main event is on first[or 2nd in this case]…

I think you are over-emphasising upsets over quality games.

Kilkenny Galway was a wreckless exhibition of bad defending[among other things]

Kilkenny Tipperary in 2002 was much better than the Kilkenny Galway 2005 match.
I was in Washington DC for it, watching it with an american friend of mine. They could not believe what they were watching.

My top 5 would be:
5 Cork v Wexford (draw) 2003
4 Kilkenny v Tipp 2009
3 Waterford v Cork 2004
2 Kilkenny v Tipp 2002
1 Waterford v Cork 2007 (draw)

That Waterford Cork game in 2007 was crazy. Eoin McGrath going for goal at the end and the free in. You could not write it better.

My personal favourite match is the AI Final 2006. I doubt it’ll ever be topped.

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Top 10 Rugby matches of the decade (with an obvious Irish bias ie no Super 14 matches or matches between other 6 Nations countries because they don’t matter)

10 Kilkenny College v Blackrock College Leinster Senior Schools Cup 2007 :pint:
9 Australia v New Zealand 3N 2000
8 Wales v Ireland 6N 2009
7 Munster v Gloucester ERC 2003
6 England v Ireland 6N 2006
5 Ireland v England 6N 2001
4 Toulouse v Leinster ERC Q/F 2006
3 Fiji V Wales RWC 2007
2 France v New Zealand RWC 2007
1 Munster v Wasps ERC S/F 2004

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Top 10 Association Football matches of the decade (biased)

10 Real Madrid 2-6 Barcelona, La Liga, May 2009
9 Romania 3-2 England, Euro 2000
8 Celtic 4-3 Juventus, Champions League, October 2001
7 Chelsea 4-4 Liverpool, Champions League, April 2009
6 England 2-3 Croatia Euro 2008 qualifier, November 2007
5 Spain 4-3 Yugoslavia, Euro 2000
4 Germany 0-2 Italy, World Cup Semi Final, 2006
3 Celtic 6-2 Rangers, SPL, August 2000
2 Liverpool 3-3 AC Milan, Champions League Final 2005
1 Ireland 1-0 Holland, Lansdowne Road, September 1, 2001

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[quote=“sid waddell”]Top 10 Association Football matches of the decade (biased)

10 Real Madrid 2-6 Barcelona, La Liga, May 2009
9 Romania 3-2 England, Euro 2000
8 Celtic 4-3 Juventus, Champions League, October 2001
7 Chelsea 4-4 Liverpool, Champions League, April 2009
6 England 2-3 Croatia Euro 2008 qualifier, November 2007
5 Spain 4-3 Yugoslavia, Euro 2000
4 Germany 0-2 Italy, World Cup Semi Final, 2006
3 Celtic 6-2 Rangers, SPL, August 2000
2 Liverpool 3-3 AC Milan, Champions League Final 2005
1 Ireland 1-0 Holland, Lansdowne Road, September 1, 2001[/quote]

Spain v France or France v Brazil were special matches at the last WC.

Sport can be great.

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So anyway, about the, eh, stuff :confused: off the top of my head

  1. Champagne Supernova (Slane, 2009)
  2. Deportivo - Milan (Riazor, 2003). They couldn’t, could they? [media=youtube]IO5sRAplrkc&feature=related
  3. Up The Bracket (Libertines, 2002 )
  4. Italy v Ireland (Bari 2009)
  5. Manics @ Smithfield 2001 (before exams, on the dry) bizzare promo video
    this [media=youtube]OuC0hdGTRHs
  6. Athletic Bilbao 2 Real Madrid 1 (San Mames, 2002)
  7. France v Ireland (Paris 2009)
  8. Rovers 4 Bohs 6 (Santry 2001) [media=youtube]6A5S4KorpE0
  9. The Double 2001 [media=youtube]qbCBChkbrFY
  10. The Double 2008 [media=youtube]6as4ntFuuXc

Who’ll be the first to put up something from their personal life :popcorn:

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Shit things of the decade

  1. Pee Flynn not croaking it
  2. Mick Galway being exposed as a dickhead
  3. Belarus reaffirming links to mother Russia
  4. The floods
  5. Dope cheats at the Irish Cup
  6. My cat Mike disappearing in 2007
  7. Clem Smith’s part in all four Wexford goals in 2001
  8. The discontinuation of Glenroe
  9. The Vatican’s continued refusal to reinstate the Tridentine mass
  10. The Case Is Altered closing down
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Top 10 piss ups of the decade

  1. All day session in glorious weather, cans at the Pav followed by pints in McDaids and Bruxelles for the UEFA Cup Final, May 14th, 2008.
  2. Primal Scream gig at the Point Depot and random house party in Glenageary, December 23rd, 2000
  3. 24 hour session for the Trinity Ball including Black Rebel Motorcycle Club and then the next day in various pubs in Dublin including the White Horse, Hapenny Inn and the Oak, May 9th/10th, 2008.
  4. Bus back from a colleges hurling game in Jordanstown, October 29th, 2003. Buckfast and cans, put my phone into a plastic bag on exiting the minibus in Dublin city centre, threw it in the bin and didn’t realise it until two days later. Also lost my hurley in the Pale pub later on that night.
  5. Cans on the green outside Cardiff Castle, May 24th, 2008.
  6. Street party outside the Mestalla stadium, Valencia for the Fallas festival, March 18th, 2004.
  7. Lift from my Da and brother from Merrion Square to Slane via Drogheda, September 1st, 2001. 6 cans of Druids Cider.
  8. House party in rented accommodation with Tyrone and Armagh people, Newcastle, Galway, August 4th, 2002 (night before Dublin v Donegal). Rose wine was the drink consumed.
  9. Quinns pub, Drumcondra, September 22nd, 2002. Armagh v Kerry on the big screen. Pints and pint encrusted hair.
  10. Eiffel Tower, Paris, and metro trains before France v Ireland, November 18th, 2009. Kronenbourg cans.
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I am absolutely disgusted at the fact that during this decade, Margaret Thatcher has had 10 years of opportunity to die, and hasn’t. I find it most annoying and insensitive of her. Thankfully this decade will see her off, though I’m hoping for it to be early, as in Jan 1st 2010.

SS, I’m sorry to hear about your cat.

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Deportivo coming back against Milan was a tremendous shout.

An unbelievable match!

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[quote=“Fitzy”]I am absolutely disgusted at the fact that during this decade, Margaret Thatcher has had 10 years of opportunity to die, and hasn’t. I find it most annoying and insensitive of her. Thankfully this decade will see her off, though I’m hoping for it to be early, as in Jan 1st 2010.
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Hold your horses Fitzy, there’s still a week left. It would be a tremendous parting shot for the decade.

If it doesn’t, we can enter the next decade with the tremendous consolation that, no matter how shit our lives might be, we will be living in the decade when Thatcher dies.

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Listen your the clown who came on here boasting about how you were going on the dole deliberately and then you were fucking off travelling. Now that your little party has been upset you suddenly think your being wronged, except you were the one doing the wrong thing.

Another thing, i know people from your neck of the woods. I’d be very confident that with an e-mail and probably 2 phone calls i’d be able to get some part time work for a young person right in your town, or in the area. You live there and can’t. Not sure what that says about you really.

And finally, FF are in power because we (yes all of us the people of ireland) voted them in. Thats the way it works. I would blame FF for most of the problems, letting people away with blue murder, if there is no regulations, or there is no enforcement of them, then paople will take advantage, simple as that. Sean Fitz and the others were greedy, and weak IMO, but its the human nature of some people to keep taking. Its time you woke and smelt the coffee young fella, or maybe the budget did that. If you were in the states you’d be getting nothing, absolutely nothing, if you didn’t work.

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[quote=“caoimhaoin”]Listen your the clown who came on here boasting about how you were going on the dole deliberately and then you were fucking off travelling. Now that your little party has been upset you suddenly think your being wronged, except you were the one doing the wrong thing.

Another thing, i know people from your neck of the woods. I’d be very confident that with an e-mail and probably 2 phone calls i’d be able to get some part time work for a young person right in your town, or in the area. You live there and can’t. Not sure what that says about you really.

And finally, FF are in power because we (yes all of us the people of ireland) voted them in. Thats the way it works. I would blame FF for most of the problems, letting people away with blue murder, if there is no regulations, or there is no enforcement of them, then paople will take advantage, simple as that. Sean Fitz and the others were greedy, and weak IMO, but its the human nature of some people to keep taking. Its time you woke and smelt the coffee young fella, or maybe the budget did that. If you were in the states you’d be getting nothing, absolutely nothing, if you didn’t work.[/quote]

It’s the baby Jesus’ birthday and Kev is still seething :smiley:

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I like to think of Jesus as a mischievous badger

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:smiley:

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hope you enjoyed the turkey runty

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Kev is an all year round seether, although I’m on his side on this one, kick in the arse no harm for some of them. God bless the baby jesus.

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hope you enjoyed the turkey runty[/quote]

I did indeed. tucking into a booze sodden trifle now.

It must be a magical time of the year for a Tipperary man Declan, Hang sangwedges for a week :thumbsup: