a nicer, decent, more earnest soul you couldnt meet. he celebrated our wedding mass. everyone back home was stunned when the allegation came in and few, if any, believed the allegations
heāll be sadly missed and the way it ended is terrible for a man who spent most of his time and energy helping others
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a nicer, decent, more earnest soul you couldnt meet. he celebrated our wedding mass. everyone back home was stunned when the allegation came in and few, if any, believed the allegations
heāll be sadly missed and the way it ended is terrible for a man who spent most of his time and energy helping others[/quote]
Thatās very sad lads. Hope he is in a better place now.
There are few worse things somebody can do than make false allegations of that nature against another person.
I see another wee girl {13} has taken her life in donegal after been bullied online,wtf is ask.fm and why dont they just turn the computer off if they are being bullied
I donāt have a clue what this ask.fm is either but I suppose if all your friends/people you go to school with are on it you will want to be on it yourself. Hard for a young person at that age to think āfuck that, itās upsetting me so Iāll stay away from it.ā Must be awful for a young person to go online and see comments about them being fat, ugly, useless and all the rest of it. And people joining in saying they ālikeā these comments. Cunts.
A lad I work with lost his sister through suicide a few weeks ago. Desperately, desperately sad.
A few months ago a lad I was in college with passed away in similar circumstances. Real bubbly character, always in good form, good job, wife and kids. Last person you would think this would happen to.
Such a big song and dance is made about road safety but the state makes revenue off that in the form of fines for speeding, not taxing the car etc. No money to be made from the prevention of suicide though.
Another round here last week.Makes it at least a dozen people from the surroinding area that i can recall im the last decade that have topped themselves
I see some chap, married with 4 kids, drove into the marina in cork last night. The usual speculation but apparently his business went bust a couple of years back and hadnāt dealt with it well. 4 little nippers gearing up for Santa ā¦tragic.
Ah thatās awful. How do the kids ever celebrate Christmas in the future without thinking of this?
The sister of that Donegal girl who committed suicide a few weeks back has now gone and done the same thing. Iāve seen what losing 1 child to suicide can do to parents but I canāt begin to imagine how parents could deal with losing 2 children to suicide. Horrendous stuff.
They wonātā¦
I can be a bit of a bah humbug myself, but when you hear tragedy like this and whatās going on in Donegal it makes you grateful for what you got.
Stay safe pals.
i find the saddest bit of all this is that it seems in some cases with adults itĀ“s money worriesā¦its terribleā¦youĀ“re health is your wealthā¦after that most problems can be solved with a bit of re adjustingā¦
I donāt knowā¦ Money worries is probably only the trigger, Iād suggest thereās something more at play when a man with 4 kids thinks suicide is the only option left.
donāt underestimate the stress and strain financial problems can cause, they can take over your life and dominate your thoughts completely, all day and night constantly, when people are thinking about that shit all the time, they become exhausted from it and eventually some lads crack from the pressure
Money worries are massive, especially if youāre providing for others. The pressure of the Santa Claus business must be absolutely massive at this time of year aswell for alot of families.
Nail on the head. We would all live with it if it was only ourselves was at stake. Pride is a desperate thing. Very very sad story in Donegal. Words canāt comprehend
Two tragic stories. Heartbreaking.
Iām not very well up on the whole suicide/insurance pay out thing, I presume your loved ones do get paid in the circumstances of suicide? In some circumstances I imagine this is the only way out some people can see when in money difficulties. Its shocking, nobody is worth anything dead.
With regards the two girls in Donegal, Iāve been close to some suicides in recent times unfortunately, and Iāve wondered at the adulation that comes afterwards. Iām not saying its right or wrong, we all deal with grief in our own ways, but Iāve found it particularly hard to stomach in some cases. Maybe stomach isnāt the right word, its just something thats lingered with me afterwards. Of course you laud someone when they pass, but in the circumstances when a teenager commits suicide we must also have the flip side of education about how this is not a good thing, how this sort of adulation is not to be sought out, is not to be considered the way out for anyone. This came to mind when I saw the two girls, did she see the outpouring of love for her sister and see that as a nice thing to have? Was she so overcome with grief and emotion that she too saw no way out other than the route her sister took and one whic hshe knew lead to such an outpouring of love for her sibling afterwards? I donāt know, perhaps its idle speculation, and its early in the morning when Iām hungover and shouldnāt be thinking about such things, but its just something thats been in my head in the past with regards to teen suicides.
God rest them all, these are strange times for our country and people.
Ireland has become such a cold and heartless place. We are so caught up in how we look, what we possess and moving further up the ladder that when things take a turn for the worst seem to have lost sight of who we actually are.
A valid if not cold question is though, How do Life Assurance policyās treat a suicide?
Could it be that a man like this would seriously think that his family would be better off if he did die? All debts would be wiped and a lump sum payment would be made depending on the policy. Its a chilling thought but maybe thereās a vain of truth in it.
Of course there are deeper issues than thisā¦ but when a man is planning his own demise then anything he can place on the scales to tip them either way is decisive.
I was at a training course recently and they touched on the whole area of youth suicides and they said schools, clubs etc need to be very careful when it comes to the funerals of people who die by suicide. As MBB says above the near idolisation of the person who has died can very often lead to a friend doing exactly the same because they see there dead friend now has a huge level of fame and worship surrounding them, which can look like a very appealing option to someone who is struggling to cope.
A young girl recently killed herself in Kildare and she was into some big Emo band. The band in turn tweeted their condolences, mentioning the girl by name, the therapist we were talking to said that is a massively irresponsible thing for a band to do, in that it could nearly create a jealousy amongst her living friends āoh look at her, she killed herself and now even the band know her by name and sheās all over the papers, I wish I was that famousā¦ā