Whatâs average? Some people canât take the knocks and get back up like you DB!!.. that said you did struggle to get up off yer arse in Glasgow Central when in an altercation with someone half your size he dropped you !!
[quote=âthedancingbaby, post: 852699, member: 48â]Am I right in thinking there is an above average number of posters on here who have suffered from depression ??
Every second or third poster on this thread seems to have had it at one time or another[/quote]
We are irish db, our % ofdepression would probably be higher than a lot of countries as we drink a lot and the weather is poor.
I would say that the anonymity of the site lends itself to guys telling the truth. I would say in your more personal dealings with people at least 70-80% (number off top of my head but a calculate guess) who have had some form of depression would not admit it. A lot of depression is fleeting I would suggest for a lot of people and many sort themselves put, sometimes almost inadvertently.
The irony of my situation was I actually talked about a lot of my shit while drinking.
[quote=âcaoimhaoin, post: 852714, member: 273â]We are irish db, our % ofdepression would probably be higher than a lot of countries as we drink a lot and the weather is poor.
I would say that the anonymity of the site lends itself to guys telling the truth. I would say in your more personal dealings with people at least 70-80% (number off top of my head but a calculate guess) who have had some form of depression would not admit it. A lot of depression is fleeting I would suggest for a lot of people and many sort themselves put, sometimes almost inadvertently.
The irony of my situation was I actually talked about a lot of my shit while drinking.[/quote]
ah hereâŚ
[quote=âthedancingbaby, post: 852699, member: 48â]Am I right in thinking there is an above average number of posters on here who have suffered from depression ??
Every second or third poster on this thread seems to have had it at one time or another[/quote]
but there are quite a few who havent come on and said they had depression either. Cant say I ever suffered from it anyway. Drink really doesnt affect me with regards to depression, never did and still wouldnt. And while I hate some aspects of life right now, mainly work really, there is enough goo things in my life to know that things relatively speaking are not bad whatsoever. generally am lucky that I find positives in most things that happen and dont ever let myself get too down or worked up over things.
eh, not sure how to respond to this. Youâre basically sharing with us the fact that you arent suicidal because you have a mildly sunny disposition.
you dont have to respond. DB was saying how the posts on here make out that they is a disproportionally high amount of posters with or having suffered depression, just making the point that there are plenty of others who havent or are suffering depression.
taking all who have stated they have had depression against all who havent stated one way or the other, and it probably gets you to the standard norm of where the stats have the numbers at anyway.
Someone throw up a poll sure.
[quote=âThrawneen, post: 852758, member: 129â]Someone throw up a poll sure.
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I would but I wouldnât want to be responsible for tipping someone over the edge if they werenât happy with the results
[quote=âthedancingbaby, post: 852699, member: 48â]Am I right in thinking there is an above average number of posters on here who have suffered from depression ??
Every second or third poster on this thread seems to have had it at one time or another[/quote]
Thatâs probably just the thing. It is likely that the number of people that suffer or suffered from depression at one point in their lives is far higher than we imagine. Remembering also that depression does not mean a person is suicidal.
i would have absolutely no issue with this
As @glasagusban says, being depressed doesnât mean someone I suicidal. A few things I think should be said.
- having depression takes on many states and time periods, you can be depressed for very short periods of time a few times in your life but be a really happy person
- there seems to be a mix up with the check-in thread, this one and guys generally getting stuff their chest. Donât confuse.
- people who admit they have a problem and talk about it are only sometimes depressed an I would think very few of these ever become suicidal.
- telling guys in a website about some dark or troubled shit in your life does not cure it. Itâs a start, but donât think it solves it. Talk to close family, a friend or a professional. Or all 3.
- guys who go out of their way to say how amazing they are are often the ones to be the closest watched. We all fool ourselves a little from time to time.
The likes of mickee are awful dopes, but at the same time I would not wish mental hardship on anyone and the way he and the likes of MBB carry on would make you fear for them long term. Donât be getting married mickee till you are 100% yourself first fella.
[quote=âcaoimhaoin, post: 852813, member: 273â]As @glasagusban says, being depressed doesnât mean someone I suicidal. A few things I think should be said.
- having depression takes on many states and time periods, you can be depressed for very short periods of time a few times in your life but be a really happy person
- there seems to be a mix up with the check-in thread, this one and guys generally getting stuff their chest. Donât confuse.
- people who admit they have a problem and talk about it are only sometimes depressed an I would think very few of these ever become suicidal.
- telling guys in a website about some dark or troubled shit in your life does not cure it. Itâs a start, but donât think it solves it. Talk to close family, a friend or a professional. Or all 3.
- guys who go out of their way to say how amazing they are are often the ones to be the closest watched. We all fool ourselves a little from time to time.
The likes of mickee are awful dopes, but at the same time I would not wish mental hardship on anyone and the way he and the likes of MBB carry on would make you fear for them long term. Donât be getting married mickee till you are 100% yourself first fella.[/quote]
Thanks pal, Iâll be in touch should I need some help.
http://ccusack111.blogspot.ie/2013/10/depression-is-friend-not-my-enemy_28.html
Great piece here by Conor Cusack. Brother of Donal Og and great hurler in his own right
[quote=âdancarter, post: 852966, member: 122â]http://ccusack111.blogspot.ie/2013/10/depression-is-friend-not-my-enemy_28.html
Great piece here by Conor Cusack. Brother of Donal Og and great hurler in his own right[/quote]
conor cusack is an allright sort, know him well
[quote=âcaoimhaoin, post: 852813, member: 273â]As @glasagusban says, being depressed doesnât mean someone I suicidal. A few things I think should be said.
- having depression takes on many states and time periods, you can be depressed for very short periods of time a few times in your life but be a really happy person
- there seems to be a mix up with the check-in thread, this one and guys generally getting stuff their chest. Donât confuse.
- people who admit they have a problem and talk about it are only sometimes depressed an I would think very few of these ever become suicidal.
- telling guys in a website about some dark or troubled shit in your life does not cure it. Itâs a start, but donât think it solves it. Talk to close family, a friend or a professional. Or all 3.
- guys who go out of their way to say how amazing they are are often the ones to be the closest watched. We all fool ourselves a little from time to time.
The likes of mickee are awful dopes, but at the same time I would not wish mental hardship on anyone and the way he and the likes of MBB carry on would make you fear for them long term. Donât be getting married mickee till you are 100% yourself first fella.[/quote]
christ almighty, we are talking about the internet here arenât ye?
A report on suicide from 1845-
On Wednesday night last, about 12 oâclock, a young man, by trade a tailor, named Michael Butler, while in a state of temporary insanity, committed self-destruction, by suspending himself by the neck with a rope, from a beam in his own house, in the Gravel Walk, in the west suburbs. An inquest was held by Wm. Ryan, Esq., coroner, when the jury returned a verdict in accordance with the above facts.
âTipperary Constitutionâ
Self-destruction 
[I]@farmerinthecity - This chap talks about Donal Walshâs comments infuriating himâŚ
http://www.broadsheet.ie/2014/01/07/staying-alive-2/
n June 2011, I walked out of hospital after a suicide attempt and I havenât looked back. I still remember how that day looked. It was a beautiful June afternoon, the sun belted down on my mamâs car and I took one final look at St John of Godâs in Stillorgan, Co Dublin â a place which had become my home for over a month. That was a week before my 22nd birthday.
I walked back into college with my head held high, spent two more years working on my journalism degree and strutted out with one of the highest marks handed out that year. Less than a week after finishing my studies and I was working for a national newspaper. For the first time in my life I felt proud of myself, I was successful.[/I]
Fast forward nearly 19 months and here I am contemplating taking my own life again. I donât know how I got here but here I am. I have everything anyone could ask for â great friends, a wonderfully supportive family, the respect of this industry Iâm in, a penthouse apartment in Dun Laoghaire, iPad, iPhone, new car and and what should look like a bright future.
But I canât see that â all I can feel is how sweet and peaceful death would be right now. The balcony 10 feet behind me seems more tempting than taking a shower in the morning, than walking into work with an exclusive under my arm or texting the girl Iâm currently seeing. My role in life has always been to make others feel happy. Iâm the joker, the friend, the pal whoâd never see you stuck. Iâm that sad clown, a cliche wrapped in another fucking cliche, sitting in a living room typing in the dark.
I never thought my mental health was that bad â even when I was placed in a locked ward as psych staff took my belt, shoe strings and lighter.
Even the cold thud of a dead lock clicking into place as I watched my family tearfully walking out of my hospital room couldnât open my eyes to the reality.
But there it was in all its painful glory.
When friends came to visit me I would smile and crack a joke pretending to be oblivious to the fact I was surrounded by some of the sickest people I had ever met â and I was one of them.
It would be months later that my friends told me I was speaking complete gibberish to them.
It was only then that I copped something wasnât really right.
In a strange way, it validated me. I was confused as to why I was put in that hospital. I knew deep down there was something seriously wrong with me but I couldnât accept it.
But back to the now. Iâm writing this as someone who is ill. Iâm not looking for sympathy, itâs just something which needs to be out there, that itâs ok to tell the world youâre not ok.
Iâm not going to work tomorrow, Iâm going to see a counsellor. Iâm going to beat this little prick in my head whoâs trying to tell me Iâm not good enough.
There will be many of you out there who donât understand how it feels to go through something like this. Thatâs not to sound high and mighty or what not, it is what it is.
But then again there are those who will know exactly the excruciating pain Iâm feeling right now.
Thereâs one way I can think of explaining it.
Imagine having a negative thought about yourself, be it your appearance, intelligence, whatever.
Now imagine it sticking with you all through the day pounding you every chance it gets. Itâs relentless in its ferocity, its cruelty. You canât think of anything else.
It tells you youâre worthless, it mocks every positive thought you try and retaliate with, it shoots down any thought of getting better. And you canât get rid of it.
So, in my case, I drank. I drank to try and rid myself of the constant waves of negativity crashing over me, washing out the good of the day.
But then that will stop working and youâll be left drunk and alone, hating yourself even more.
The day I tried to kill myself in April 2011, I found myself in the corner of my room with a bottle of whiskey balling my eyes out.
I began drinking socially again after six months off it. I drank not because I wanted to forget but because I enjoyed it.
But now Iâm doing it for the same old reasons. The most important thing is that Iâve caught it in time.
The recent Donal Walsh documentary on RTE opened people up to talking about mental health.
Here was a terminally ill young man telling people to cop on and not take your own life.
To be honest, it infuriated me.
Suicidal ideation, to many, is a terminal illness and something which canât be fought with medication.
If youâre set on taking your life, then youâre going to do it. But there are support structures out there designed to pull you from the brink Itâs in no way black and white.
You donât see how much youâre loved, you donât see the pain and hardship it would cause your family.
Even now Iâm racked with guilt over my own attempt. My mum is a shell of the woman she was, constantly worrying about me.
My sister thinks Iâm too ill to live a regular life and my friends are now texting me after a night out telling me âto ring when I get inâ.
Everybodyâs worried about me â and I guess theyâre right to.
The stigma of mental health in Irish society may be loosening its grip, but the guilt of having tried it will always remain.
I donât want to be known as âthat guy who tried to kill himselfâ.
In fact Iâm that funny, intelligent and caring guy who actually wants to know how youâre doing.
Thereâs a part me that wants to just delete this entire message and go to work tomorrow and pretend everything is ok.
But Iâm sick of living a half life, one thatâs just going to knock me on my arse as I try and plough ahead.
So this is a moment for me to take stock, lay a solid foundation, take a breather and then move forward once again.
This is not a cry for help, itâs more of a success story. Iâve spotted the danger signs and Iâm fighting back.
Iâm not going to let this darkness define me and let it win. Iâm stronger than that.
So for anyone out there whoâs thinking similar things, Iâm pleading with you to tell someone; family, friends, the Samaritans.
This is because Iâm one of the lucky ones, Iâve survived suicide. You only get one go around.
To be honest, Iâm feeling a hell of a lot better after writing this.
Take her handy,
Garreth MacNamee
Sweeping generic statements are dangerous when it comes to mental health.
Everyone has their own shit to deal with.