I did way way back. As in if you live somewhere and something outside your control happens. Leaks, a multi national moves in etc.
I do. You donāt understand stress.
In the context of the discussion on cancer those are environmental factors. You donāt understand the use of the word āluckā relating to cancer causes any more than those that think stress is only a mental issue. In the broadest sense of the word luck all causes of cancer are related to luck, as you might be unlucky with an undetected oil leak in your house as you said, or unlucky in that your parents passed on a mutated cancer causing gene to you (something you have no control over either).
The āluckā referenced in science relating to cancer causes though is the chances of developing a cancer causing mutation yourself with no environmental or genetic factor. Think about it this way; you have 100 trillion cells in your body, all of which are going to be replaced at varying rates throughout your life. Colon cells are replaced every few days, skin cells every few weeks, one of the reasons these cancers are so prevalent. The DNA coding to replace one of those cells alone would fill about 200 phone books. All it takes is for one error in the coding process and you have a potential cancer causing mutation. Itās purely random whether you develop such a mutation, but live long enough and you will eventually run out of āluckā. The main reason cancer is more common nowadays is because people are living longer.
1 Like
Explain to me how physiological stress leads to cancer. Not some made up rubbish, the actual biochemical pathways involved.
1 Like
Not mu job to do that, thats why i read and listen to others, particularly those who work in these areas.
Your voews are heavily āwesternā and will be out dated soon enough.
In very plain english, if you are overly stressed your fire fighting parts can get over worked. Cancerous cells are in people that never develop. Why is that? Because they are built to withstand, or they live a life that allows them withstand.
I saw a guy fight cancer with exercise and little else. He changed his lifestyle. He did take aome drugs but no chemo or anything that invasive. It worked.
He did alot of slow elesticity exercise, how involved that was in the process i donāt know, but i do know it builds a certain type of muscle fibre and is very effective in making people feel better, in various ways and to various levels.
As expected, a load of utter utter bollox.
That hardly qualifies as an alternative to accepted treatments. Is there a second person who survived with this approach?
2 Likes
this is a topic that has no answer
Between getting your dog to detect it and having a friend who beat it with a bit of stretching I am imploring you to stop spoofing about cancer. Causes cures and treatments, leave them all alone.
3 Likes
Anecdotal evidence is the worst kind of evidence. I know a woman who smoked a pack a day and lived to be 98, ergo we should all smoke a pack a day. I also know a woman who was given 4 months to live in 1990 and is still going strong, without changing anything in her lifestyle. The idea that there is some better alternative to āwesternā medicine is derisory. The only hope the vast majority of people who develop cancer have is early detection (brought about by techniques developed in the west like CAT scans, MRI, etc) and early treatment, also developed in the west. The advances in detection and treatment over the past few decades are actually staggering, but its an uphill battle considering the scale of the problem i.e. DNA is prone to mutation. Ironically this feature that has given rise to the variety and complexity of life forms is also the feature we have to fear most.
3 Likes
Is Kev a ātrutherā?
Iām with @caoimhaoin here. The chaps with the blind belief in science and big medicine here will look like flat earthers in 20 years time.
1 Like
I suppose the auld defibrillators only work due to the grace of God or blind luck too.
2 Likes
Wasnāt a friend. Just a member of the gym.
You are very naive
You have contradicted yourself continiously since joining this talk. Then the one bit of evidence you bring supports what weāre saying more than you.
If course anecdotal evidence is only what it is. However it shows that there are more ways than one. There are thousands of stories of people beating cancer in alternative ways. You just have to look.
And thats what you refuse to do.
1 Like
You are by far the thickest bastard ever to post here but Iād still expect you to chose an oncologist over a Pilates class.
Wouldnāt you?
3 Likes
@Fagan_ODowd did you go āalternativeā to treat that blood disease that you have? Is the trumpet playing keeping it at bay maybe?
I took no medicines pal. Iām beating it by sheer force of will. 
Itās either gods work or medicine, palā¦pick one.