There is the centrist rugby dads who wouldnt be far right mate
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What would be their stance on the immigration debate, I wonder?
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Whats your stance on immigration
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The right as I see it is a political term, immigration, xenophobia and racism aren’t really political issues
Immigration is an intensely political issue and will become even more so.
Anything that determines the makeup and functionality of a society is political. It;s inherent in the word.
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The funny thing is, the issues the the “right” are highlighting that is an effect of immigration, public services healthcare capacity, social housing etc are left wing pillars of a society. All have been severely neglected and cannot support the additional immigration let along current demand.
Serious mental gymnastics going on. Eaiser to just throw labels than actually tackle these issues
You’re correct, perhaps I didn’t explain my thoughts well, to be ‘Right wing’ used to indicate that you gave your support to a particularly party, often National economic issues were the decider,
The ‘Far Right’ are concerned with more sinister things,
So in my response to @Heyyoubehindthebushes i should have said that I believe the centre right are still there, just not getting the publicity, I’d say there’s a huge cohort of society would place themselves there
There used to be a type C of person known as a liberal, a term which carried few negative connotations, now that person is ‘woke’
I would agree with a lot of that.
Could it be that the centre-right are the silent majority in this country nowadays? The people who always vote but generally always vote the same way. They’re unlikely to move further right but equally unlikely to dramatically shift the political dynamic. It’s why we’ll be into multi-party coalitions for the foreseeable future.
Fine Gael are centre right, they’ve been in government for quite a long time now. The idea of a “silent majority” is a misnomer.
The far right is concerning on how they are using it to gain support from people who dont get a view of any issues past the headline or a fb post. As i said before the far left or woke are trying to fihht fire with fire by using the same tactic instead of digging into concerns and detailing why what the far right is saying is completely wrong, adressing that there is issues and outlining how it can be fixed. The influx of Ukrainian refugees couldnt be foreseen 12 months ago but its highlight the inability of the irish state not only to look after the irish public let alone give refuge to people fleeing war. We should be able to do both, if point 1 was in place, point 2 would be achievable during a crisis
In fairness i think you are fsirly accurate in yoyr post centre right is mainly silent on the topic but see the reslity of the situation
It’s actually a lot funnier that the ‘far left’ are now labelled as ‘woke’, the far left used to be the biggest headbangers in society, they’d put the National Party in the hapenny place, but first they’d box the heads off them
Who are the far left in Ireland? Are PBP even far left? I wouldn’t have really thought so.
FG are not centre right. 
I’m pro immigration, particularly within the EU. I’d also encourage it from countries that are EU accession countries and those who we have strong historical cultural ties with.
Asylum is a different story.
2 cheeks of the same arse. National party, irish independence party need to be kept in the same breath as the BNP and EDL. PBP or whatever their called are the same headbangers.
Just need the centre parties to not fan their flames but actively engaging with issues which none of them are doing.
What are they? Pro business, pro markets, against expanding the state and state services, they are broadly centre right, they’re the Irish equivalent of the Tories, albeit nowhere near as bad as them. They’re part of the European EPP grouping which is the definition of centre right, that’s what they are and what they clearly identify themselves as.
Everybody who isn’t far right seems to get labelled as “woke” these days. Sure Fine Gael and Fianna Fail are supposedly “woke” now.
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Nonsense. Ireland is a high tax and spend country with the highest wealth redistribution via taxation in the world. They have overseen an incredible expansion of the State since they have come in. Are you one of these who thinks that housing is based on “free markets”?
They are a centre party. There are no large centre right parties left in Ireland.
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FG are more right leaning than left but its fairly irrelevant in the context of how fad the other sides have gone. Your correct on the tax system, its a very fair system. Not perfect but in general fair
They specifically joining the centre right grouping. Just because they are not good at controlling current spending doesn’t mean they aren’t centre right. You call this nonsense because you’d be right of centre yourself and don’t want the “right” tag. This is the same as FG calling SF “far left”, it’s silly nonsense. FG are quintessential centre-right.