TFK's Far Right - Watch thread (no spongers allowed)

What evidence of that is there aside from people saying it over and over?

They all join different groupings. FG were shaping as more centre right historically.

We had 10 years of FG prioritising spending over tax cuts, let’s stop pretending they are centre right.

How about their housing policy while their ministers oversaw the steady worsening of the current housing crisis?

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They join the grouping they fit. FG joined the centre right grouping. Have a flick through the other national parties that are in that grouping, all centre right. You’re being really silly here.

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Based on their historic policies and actions. In line with other centre right parties around the world.

But in the general political spectrum as it as broadened so much over the last 10 years you could say they are centre now without actually moving

Wait are we in agreement on this thread?

steve carell GIF

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Not “free market”

Rent controls
A Central Bank mandated to enforce the strictest mortgage rules in Europe
HAP
Heightened building regulations
Larger apartment size mandated than much of Europe
Restrictive planning rules

I can go on, but this claim it is the “market” is utterly risible. Housing is up there with education and health for State intervention.

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Are you seriously trying to argue that HAP -payinhbthe private market to solve a problem of state responsibility - is evidence that they are not centre right? Seriously?? :smiley:

You’ll need to flesh that out and stop just repeating buzzwords.

FG have consistently prioritised spending increases over tax cuts since “fiscal space” opened following the IMF EU intervention. Our public spending was significantly over targets pre COVID.

Prime example? For years FG threw a fiver extra a week to all classes of social welfare. In order to get a similar impact from “tax cuts”, you’d have to have been earning over €50k a year. The reason this was done was because Leo Varadkar was “outflanking FF” on pensions.

The last budget is the first meaningful tax reform that will impact middle earners since FG came in.

Pure ràimèis

Yep, because it is. It leads to inflated rents.

No difference between that and the winter fuel allowance, for example.

The only difference is that it is to “landlords”, who became boogeyman no 1. again in this country.

It’s State intervention. You want the market in action?

So you’re arguing that payments to landlords, while refusing to take responsibility to provide state housing, is evidence that FG are not centre right? Seriously??

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It’s State intervention.

It might not be good State intervention, but it is state intervention. It is not the free market.

I remember for years that the annual squealing was over the lack of the increase in the “rent supplement”.

I think it’s just that the vast majority of people in Ireland would be the old definition of centre left so FG have moved in that direction.

Comfortable enough to moan, too comfortable to contemplate change.

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Doctors v Engineers?

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Are they sure that’s not footage from one of the Limerick post All-Ireland banquets?

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The farmers journal is gone fierce far right

Who knew all foreigners don’t get along with each other?