The Art of War - Derek Sun Tzu McGrath

Warning - long boring post incoming - stop reading now if you can only handle bullet points.

So a few weeks back on the night of the euros I was sitting on my couch about 12.30 at night, nursing the end of a beer, and watching the end of a movie (Bourne)… when I hear footsteps getting louder and then someone absolutely rattled the fuck out of my windows with five big loud thumps. I nearly hit the fucking roof with the shock of it as you can imagine sitting there in your own gaff in the dark and half asleep then thump, thump, thump. I ran out my front door without thinking and could make out a figure running behind the tree line across from the house, so I just made a beeline in that direction in my bare feet, and I’m still Clutching the bottle beer I was drinking - and I find a character behind a gable end house wall, about 300 yards from my house, and he’s on the ground laughing… I just ran up and give him a boot in the hole and grabbed him by the scruff of the neck I just threw a couple of fucks at him and told him stay away from the house – he was about 16.

as I was coming back towards my house I saw movement down the other end of the road so I knew his friends had scattered the other direction behind the tree line, So I creep up on the friends, three of them, and just had a quiet word telling them you can’t be banging on the house as my mrs is almost eight months pregnant and there’s a couple of young kids in the house… I said just tell your friend I only wanted to scare him off yada yada yada… 20 minutes later then didnt the missus say ‘I think there’s people outside again’ and sure enough I could hear voices and I was just about to go out the door when a squad car flew passed… turns out they’d been knocking on loads of other doors around the neighborhood and it’s actually something that’s been going on for ages - there’s a neighborhood Watch whatsapp group that I’m not in, but there’s constantly people saying that their house was egged or stuff was thrown at their front door or front door was booted - so these are the prime Suspects. So they flew off from the guards but one guy was wearing those slider flip-flop things and they came off his feet when running so I picked them up and I left them across the road on the grass across from my house and I worked from home at the front of the house the next day looking out the window waiting to see if they’d come back. Sure enough, at half one they came back, bauld as brass, so I ran out and asked ‘can we talk’ but straight away it was attitude ‘no’… and so I went up to them all the same, and said sorry for giving your man a kick, but that he frightened the life out of me at that hour of the night and that there’s young kids in the house and there’s a pregnant wife - you can’t be banging on people’s property that hour of the night … but it was all attitude- apparently I beat the shit out of him was the story that he told his friends - you can’t go beating young fellas up(I’ll remind everyone I was barefoot and holding a beer in one hand when I caught him) anyways - all attitude and took no accountability so I knew there and then they were gonna come back.

They let it go for two weeks and let the dust die down but last Sunday night they decided to rock up around 11.30pm and fired five or six eggs at the windows with the mrs in bed getting the worst of it- in my bare feet again I didn’t hesitate and took off but I only got so far and I knew I wasn’t going to catch the shits so I ran back and got on a footwear hopped into the car and I drove around to the back of the estate to where I had an idea that they were heading, but they got there just before. There’s a gap in the tree line at the back of the estate down into a big ditch that you can go through to get to another Estate but it takes a good three or four minutes to drive around to this other estate … they had gotten in to the tee line and into the ditch before me but I stood there listening for a minute and I could hear them talk and one of them called out to David and they were fairly shitting it the little pricks - but I was stood there and listened for a bit as I wasn’t jumping in there in the dark, I’d break my neck. I ran back to the car and drove around to the other estate - I had a Hurley with me and when I got the other side sure enough I could see them all sitting there on a curb on their phones … So I pulled up and into the first house nearest them, pretending I was living there and they ignored me. opened the door got the Hurley out and ran at them and I just missed one guy and they Scattered and I let out a few shouts of ‘stay the fuck away from my house’ and ‘David, I have your name, and the guards have your name’ blah blah blah. I had no idea who was David.

I go back home and meet the guards, my wife had rang them …. I told them they better find the shits or im going to hurt them badly and I’ll gladly take a charge but in fairness, they were sound out and calmed me down and I dropped the hurley.

I’m kind of on a high this stage so I wasn’t ready for bed but about half one I was just about to lock up when the door is booted again - at half one in the morning knowing that there’s kids and a pregnant woman in there ffs… so I come out and the cars destroyed, they covered it in shite and they poured stuff in a little crack in one of the windows on to one of the child seats in the back- the Mrs rang the guards again and they come out but I’m quite zen at this stage …

I didn’t sleep for half of that night but next day it’s the little ones birthday, I went off to get balloons about 11 o’clock and coming back to the house and I see a couple of figures walking along the other side of the tree line as I’m driving the car down towards the house… and I’m thinking they surely aren’t stupid enough to come back - so I walked down my road as there’s a gap halfway down in the tree line and they’re behind the trees on the other side walking the same direction and sure enough they walk out the gap in the trees and it’s the little bold bastards, they turn and fled… I’d say they wanted to see their handy work from the night before but I had the windows scrubbed at 9am and the car brought to the car wash… I drive and I almost catch them escaping into the other estate again and they can hear me so I shout that there’s a pregnant wife and young kids in the house, to let it go blah blah blah.

The wife had messaged the community WhatsApp group again and 3 other cars of people who have had their door or property damaged tuned up and we all drove around to the other estate and one of the drivers nearly got them, they were hiding under a three, but they made a beeline into the bushes and they got away.

I decided to take another angle and I start jumping online and I start Googling every local sports club underage team and every local secondary school and secondary school in Cork and their sports teams …and looking at every photo I can to find to see if I can find these guys, particularly the ring leader… No joy after two-days, couldn’t find anything, but then I decided to check on the local primary school here from a few years back …in no time I find a picture that looks like him from about five years ago aged 10/11…so anyway I get to work, ask a few people, and find out a name, get a modern picture and it turns out it is actually him - I get a name, address, school and father’s name… I’m just working on getting the mates now( I have one partially identified) and I’m just going to build a dossier on them all before acting. I first thought about spreading malicious lies about them and signing them up to some sordid gay sex sites and getting materials sent to their house to compound the rumours but there’s no telling what kids might do to themselves if the world starts slagging them off about something– so maybe this is a bit immature to do. I then thought about going all psycho on them and creeping up on them outside their house and whisper something like ‘ Now i know where you live, I’m going to rape your mother’ and walk away – but that too is probably a little OTT. Instead I think I’ll just let them know I know everything about them and that there’s gonna be a new baby in the house soon so fuck off and I wont take any action… but leave a lingering threat about the guards if they don’t.

It’s probably the best approach as I’ll very seriously injure one of them if it happens again and I’m kinda hoping for this if I’m being honest but it’s not fair on the wife to bring more trouble on. I’ve had a lot of men in the neighbourhood offer their services to help beat them :blush:- even as recent as an hour ago picking up the little lady from a play date. Apparently one of the local Pakistani guys who works in the local takeaway got set on by two 15 year olds a few weeks back… He’s the soundest most gentle soul you could ever meet and i was raging when i found out… he always fires in a few extras when i get grub and we have a bit of banter. What’s sickening is all these kids are from very respectful families and a number of them are well off. They wouldn’t last jig time with lads their own age from the Northside, they’d literally cry. Pure middle class privilege.

Anyway, the real question is – what would Derek advise me?

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What would 15 year old Kyle have done?

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I’d rewatch Home Alone and set up a few boobie traps.

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That’ll be a bigger problem, they’ll refuse to believe their David would do anything like that.

There was a gang of young lads cause wreck around Castletroy, attacking drunk students etc. We encountered them one night and a fairly vicious row ensued. One of the lads with us, who is a massive fucker, got a belt of a nunchucks across the face. Did a bit of investigating afterwards and turned out they were all kids from well to do families.

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Kyle was actually very respectful of his neighbours and rarely got in trouble with old farts in their 30s/40s.

Bit odd to be at that craic at 16 tbh. You should be gearing up for pubs and jocking young wans if you hadn’t already at that age.

The younger me would go down the psychological warfare with these guys.
I remember before posting a cut out bible verse about revenge to a mate’s house when he was in trouble and his father opened it and thought it was a threat from drug dealers :joy:… Social media would have been great craic at 16

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Allegedly, young lads from where I grew up would knock great craic winding up the man who lived with his family in a house at the top of an estate. They had so much fun doing it younger generations started doing it and eventually the mad cunt had to sell the house to get away from them.

I’d say your first mistake was reacting

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Yeah. Probably shouldn’t have but i got such a shock initially i just didn’t think.

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Understandable. A camera might be no harm and post up a clip on a local area Facebook page

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Get a ring door bell so when the fuckers come back you’ve a photo and can then hand it all to their parents and guards.

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Or if you know anyone on the north side , bring them down to scare the shit out of them.

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Could you print off a few wanted posters with their faces on them and put them up on lamp posts in the other estate?

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There’s tonnes i can do… Im caught between wanting to smash them and judt ending it…

Was just about to say, should these young lads not be out with girls by that age? They’re too old for this childish shit so there is probably a bit of a want there. Fair play, you’d have made a great Garda, totally fearless. I’ve a few pals living in good estates have encountered similar shit but not to that level, no escalation beyond a bit of egg and knockadolly.I wouldn’t know what to do to be honest. The fact you couldn’t find there pictures on any teams or anywhere would probably lead me to think they have nothing to be doing. The way they don’t ease off when you’ve explained your own situation at home is very poor behaviour and they should know by sixteen. You seem to be handling it well anyway and have half the Gards job done for them anyway when the time comes.

Probably some way you can do both?

The loony left will no doubt try paint you as the bad guy here

“Ah it’s only young lads, they don’t mean to terrify your wife and family. Lighten up Kyle etc”

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All the local corkies said to ignore it, it’ll go away… You can see why they haven’t won an AI in 20 years… Us Limericks are relentless and won’t back down

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The biggest mpediment to you is you’d lose the career if you cracked one of them, you’re not dealing with Wayne Dundon Jr who’d have better shit to be doing anyway. You could try shaming them by calling them sad cunts; go down to the local pub near the estate, tell everyone who’ll listen the story. The parents will be mortified.

Bate the head off the parents.

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Buy a house on a road lads, even if its a rough road; nowhere for the fuckers to be hiding.

Open confrontation will trigger
over-powering resistance. Thus the key
to victory is the ability to use surprise tactics.

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Let Niall Gilligan be an example to you. You’ll do time if you get violent with them. I had it a few years ago. A couple of little cunts egged the house. I found out one of the names. I drove around to the parents house. Told her I’d seen him in the act. She said that’s terrible I’ll have a word with him, he can’t be doing that. I drive home. Ten minutes later her xc90 pulls into the driveway. I had a word with him and he said it wasn’t him. You must be mistaken. He saw two other teenagers in the area, maybe it was them. I gave her a piece of my mind on her parenting abilities and who she could blame when she was pulling him out of the gutter in ten years time. I was quite forthright. It’s quite awkward when we pass in the Supermarket since but I couldn’t give a fuck and the house wasn’t set upon again.

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