No mate, but Manuel Zelaya is.
[quote=“Sidney, post: 866432, member: 183”]He missed with the first. probably because his view become partly obscured by a tree crossing his sightline. It’s probable that that bullet fragmented off a branch and a fragment of it ended up nicking James Tague.
He had an unobscured shot with the second and third shots and I’ve already showed that he was more than capable of making those shots successfully.[/quote]
Ok, Sid, pal… I’ll read back over this thread with a cuppa later.
Maybe we can make the trip over the Washington together when the files relating to the case are released to the public… When is this exactly?
[quote=“Mark Renton, post: 866435, member: 1796”]Ok, Sid, pal… I’ll read back over this thread with a cuppa later.
Maybe we can make the trip over the Washington together when the files relating to the case are released to the public… When is this exactly?[/quote]
It’s all here, mate:
It is a common misconception that the records relating to the assassination of President Kennedy are in some way sealed. In fact, the records are largely open and available to the research community here at the National Archives at College Park in the President John F. Kennedy Assassination Record Collection.
Congress created the Kennedy Collection when it passed the Kennedy Assassination Records Collection Act of 1992. This statute directed all Federal agencies to transmit to the National Archives and Records Administration (NARA) all records relating to the assassination in their custody. The Kennedy Act also created a temporary agency, the Assassination Records Review Board (ARRB), to ensure that the agencies complied with the Act.
In addition to records already open at NARA prior to the passing the Kennedy Act, the Collection now consists of previously withheld records of the Warren Commission, records of the Office of the Archivist, and newly released materials from the Kennedy, Johnson, and Ford Presidential Libraries. Other agency records in the Collection include records of the House Select Committee on Assassinations, records of the Central Intelligence Agency, the Federal Bureau of Investigation and a small amount of material from a variety of other agencies, including the Office of Naval Intelligence. The Collection now includes over five million pages of records.
With a very few exceptions, virtually all of the records identified as belonging to the Kennedy Collection have been opened in part or in full. Those documents that are closed in full or in part were done so in accordance with the Kennedy Act, mentioned above. According to the Act, no record could be withheld in part or in full, without the agreement of the ARRB. The guidelines for withholding records are outlined in the provisions in Section 6 of the Act. The full report of the ARRB[/URL] is available online. A copy of the Act is in[URL=‘http://www.archives.gov/research/jfk/review-board/report/appendix-c.pdf’]http://www.archives.gov/global-images/tiny-pdf-file-icon.gifAppendix C of the ARRB Report mentioned above. In all cases where the ARRB agreed to withhold a record or information in a record, they stipulated a specific release date for the document. In addition, according to Section 5(g)(2)(D) of the Act, all records in the Kennedy Collection will be opened by 2017 unless certified as justifiably closed by the President of the United States.
Why does anyone care about this shit. JFK is from another era and is pretty irrelevant today.
And I’m sick shit of this bullshit all over Nat Geo. I pay that subscription for fucking lions and tigers and sharks. Not some prick who couldn’t keep his Mickey in his pants from the 60’s.
Fuck JFK.
[quote=“caoimhaoin, post: 866464, member: 273”]Why does anyone care about this shit. JFK is from another era and is pretty irrelevant today.
And I’m sick shit of this bullshit all over Nat Geo. I pay that subscription for fucking lions and tigers and sharks. Not some prick who couldn’t keep his Mickey in his pants from the 60’s.
Fuck JFK.[/quote]
So you are saying you don’t know who the shooter was??? That’s a first…
Surely Kev actually knew the shooter, or the very least, good sources close to the investigation who know of a cover-up?
Mark Renton playing a blinder here. I have read some of the archived files and government records and not relied upon Oliver Stones movie or documentaries to educate myself about this case. I have watched the Zapruder film and looked at some of the Warren Commission findings. I have come to the conclusion that there was a second gun man who took the fatal shot. There is no other RATIONAL explanation. You have to look at cause and effect rather than mindlessly believe that it was pot luck or a sequence of massive improbabilities.
http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/bogus.htm
[SIZE=4]Should Oswald’s Interrogation Have Been Recorded?[/SIZE]
http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/oball.gif To anybody who watches TV crime dramas, it might seem obvious that Lee Harvey Oswald’s interrogation should have been taped. Isn’t that what the cops always do? Given the massive stakes in this case, isn’t it suspicious that no audio recording was made? Unfortunately, what seems “obvious” today doesn’t necessarily apply in 1963. As late as 2004, the Innocence Project was urging police departments to record interrogations. Indeed, their survey of police practices in that year showed that virtually no departments recorded suspect interrrogations as far back as 1963. As researcher Sandy McCroskey (who discovered this report) pointed out:All departments in Alaska record [interrogations] and had been doing so for nineteen years in 2004. That means they weren’t in 1963, as they started only in 1985. Los Angeles had been recording for 23 years in 2004. That means they started only in 1981. What about New York City? Well, all we have for that state is Broome County, and it didn’t start until 2002! Chicago? No department in Illinois started before 1994. Washington, DC started in 2003. No police department in Texas was recording interrogations until 1992.And of course, in 2004 a large number of departments still didn’t record interrogations, a reality the Innocence Project was trying to reform.
Why is Sidney so intent on trying to convince us that it was Oswald alone that killed JFK?
Who is he working for?
Go on.
Sick bastard.
That’s what was done, and anybody who does that can only come to the same conclusion - Oswald was the lone gunman, acing alone.
The conspiracy theorists all rely upon often deliberate falsehoods and massive improbabilities.
The Zapruder film entirely rules out the existence of a second gunman hitting a shot that hit Kennedy and/or Connally.
[quote=“TreatyStones, post: 866517, member: 1786”]Why is Sidney so intent on trying to convince us that it was Oswald alone that killed JFK?
Who is he working for?[/quote]
Team AIG, conspiracy denial division.
[quote=“Sidney, post: 866523, member: 183”]That’s what was done, and anybody who does that can only come to the same conclusion - Oswald was the lone gunman, acing alone.
The conspiracy theorists all rely upon often deliberate falsehoods and massive improbabilities.
The Zapruder film entirely rules out the existence of a second gunman hitting a shot that hit Kennedy and/or Connally.[/quote]
Sid,
Pardon me if you have already addressed this. What was the story with the fatal shot? The famous ‘back and to the left’? If it was ‘back and to the left’ then surely it couldn’t have come from Oswald? I read somewhere that Kennedy actually went forward intially after the fatal shot (consistent with a shot from Oswald) and the car braked immediately pushing him ‘back and to the left’?
[quote=“farmerinthecity, post: 866534, member: 24”]Sid,
Pardon me if you have already addressed this. What was the story with the fatal shot? The famous ‘back and to the left’? If it was ‘back and to the left’ then surely it couldn’t have come from Oswald? I read somewhere that Kennedy actually went forward intially after the fatal shot (consistent with a shot from Oswald) and the car braked immediately pushing him ‘back and to the left’?[/quote]
No.
The car was still moving, you see the the body guards running trying to catch up… The fact that parts of his brain are blown back behind him, in the same trajectory as his head movement…
Here is Jackie reaching back to grab half of his head as the car is still moving…
Here is the impact, Kennedy leaning forward and you can clearly see the impact of the bullet is at the front of the head and the immediate explosion of blood from the front is where impact took place…that’s not an exit wound.
Here we are milli-seconds after the impact, slumped back from the force after previously leaning forward.
http://www.copweb.be/Frank%20Caramelli%20Jr/Z-Frames/Zf-323.jpg
Even the initial shot, the story about his arms reflexing up automatically sounds like a load of bull. It’s more likely he was shot in the throat from the front, with a exit wound in his upper back.
What about the evidence that places Oswald four floors down sipping from a drink on the opposite side of the buildng moments after Kennedy had been shot?
Also, a select committee on assassinations in the 70s determined that Kennedy was shot from the grassy knoll and that Kennedy was murdered as past of a conspiracy.
After doing months and months of research I am all but convinced that yes Ruby did shoot Oswald and he was a lone shooter on that day. Case closed.
[quote=“Mark Renton, post: 866567, member: 1796”]No.
The car was still moving, you see the the body guards running trying to catch up… The fact that parts of his brain are blown back behind him, in the same trajectory as his head movement…
Here is Jackie reaching back to grab half of his head as the car is still moving…
Here is the impact, Kennedy leaning forward and you can clearly see the impact of the bullet is at the front of the head and the immediate explosion of blood from the front is where impact took place…that’s not an exit wound.
Here we are milli-seconds after the impact, slumped back from the force after previously leaning forward.
http://www.copweb.be/Frank%20Caramelli%20Jr/Z-Frames/Zf-323.jpg
Even the initial shot, the story about his arms reflexing up automatically sounds like a load of bull. It’s more likely he was shot in the throat from the front, with a exit wound in his upper back.
What about the evidence that places Oswald four floors down sipping from a drink on the opposite side of the buildng moments after Kennedy had been shot?
Also, a select committee on assassinations in the 70s determined that Kennedy was shot from the grassy knoll and that Kennedy was murdered as past of a conspiracy.[/quote]
Just on a point of note from this. Anyone who knows anything about shooting knows that the entry wound is usually much neater than the exit wound. The picture above with the brain and blood exploding at the front suggests he was shot from behind.
Don’t knock it till ya tried it.
I can buy that, but it is not always the case… but…
You are saying he was shot from behind yet his hole body/head is driven back the same way as the bullet has come from ?