The Battle for Sam 2009

Donegal v Carlow

Monaghan v Armagh

Meath v Waterford

Wicklow v Fermanagh

Wexford v Offaly

Louth v Tipperary

London v Down

Leitrim v Longford

Handy enough,could have been much worse.

[quote=“cluaindiuic”]Donegal v Carlow

Monaghan v Armagh

Meath v Waterford

Wicklow v Fermanagh

Wexford v Offaly

Louth v Tipperary

London v Down

Leitrim v Longford[/QUOTE]

Predictions:

Donegal
Monaghan
Meath
Wicklow
Wexford
Tipperary
Down
Leitrim

Still picking out bits and pieces you self righteous pontificating prick. :thumbsup:

Derry and Donegal have had fine players and teams for years but will never win jack shit until they come up with a tactical gameplan that suits their players not copying and pasting one that might suit Tyrone but not their own. For a forward line with the two Bradleys to only score 7 points in 70 minutes is disgraceful.

[quote=“farmerinthecity”]Terrible.

Holding up the draw with meaningless information was bad enough but then ‘I have information on Donegal here if I could put my eyes on it’ from Trevor was unforgiveable.

Still prefer their coverage over RTE.[/QUOTE]

They’re not a patch on RT’s professionalism.

[quote=“KIB man”]Still picking out bits and pieces you self righteous pontificating prick. :thumbsup:

Derry and Donegal have had fine players and teams for years but will never win jack shit until they come up with a tactical gameplan that suits their players not copying and pasting one that might suit Tyrone but not their own. For a forward line with the two Bradleys to only score 7 points in 70 minutes is disgraceful.[/QUOTE]

No you made an absurd comment about the problems with northern football and how they have their tactics all wrong. That was quite clearly the statement of a deluded fool.

Northern football particularly and gaelic football is general is paralysed by analysis was the quote I think. At least try and be accurate rather than peddling pathetic agendas.

I know what the quote was - I included it in my post, or “quoted it” if you prefer. The essence of the quote is, regrettably, completely wrong. Northern football has shown itself to be the strongest element of gaelic football in recent times. That’s not even remotely debatable. Citing northern football “particularly” as tactically misguided is, of course, idiotic. Your efforts at arguing the point are, as usual, pathetic.

do you 2 ever stop?

i think the phrase 2 sides of the same coin was invented to describe you 2

Farmer - remember our debate last year about Leinster vs Connacht Football - have you anything to comment on that topic after the game yesterday?! :smiley:

Not much except to say that it reminded me of last year’s Leinster final.

:thumbsup:

[quote=“farmerinthecity”]Not much except to say that it reminded me of last year’s Leinster final.

:thumbsup:[/QUOTE]

You Connacht lads, always living in the past :stuck_out_tongue:

Dublin and Meath was hardly a classic was it?

Sure Connacht football isn’t in great shape these days but neither is Leinster.

[quote=“farmerinthecity”]Dublin and Meath was hardly a classic was it?

Sure Connacht football isn’t in great shape these days but neither is Leinster.[/QUOTE]

What ever happened the farmer that would repeatedly fly off the handle around here? You’ve changed man

Indeed I have Mac, indeed I have.

I smell a womans influence mac

If the vanilla essence of your point is that Northern football has shown itself to be the strongest element of gaelic football in recent times then I would suggest that essence is certainly debatable and possibly a pile of bollox. Northern football consists of nine counties the majority of which havent been a factor in knock out championship football in recent times.

Wexford (one man team) comfortably took care of Armagh and Down in Croke Park last year. If I listed out genuine contenders or near enough for Sam this year I would say Dublin, Cork, Kerry, Galway, Mayo and Tyrone. With the players available to them Donegal and Derry should comfortably be on that list but tactical misguideness is to my mind their biggest fault. Derry today disgusted me. Their sole aim was to keep the score down and their tactics reflected that. Brolly seemed to be defending this approach at half time and Spillane rightly pulled him on it.

[quote=“KIB man”]If the vanilla essence of your point is that Northern football has shown itself to be the strongest element of gaelic football in recent times then I would suggest that essence is certainly debatable and possibly a pile of bollox. Northern football consists of nine counties the majority of which havent been a factor in knock out championship football in recent times.

Wexford (one man team) comfortably took care of Armagh and Down in Croke Park last year. If I listed out genuine contenders or near enough for Sam this year I would say Dublin, Cork, Kerry, Galway, Mayo and Tyrone. With the players available to them Donegal and Derry should comfortably be on that list but tactical misguideness is to my mind their biggest fault. Derry today disgusted me. Their sole aim was to keep the score down and their tactics reflected that. Brolly seemed to be defending this approach at half time and Spillane rightly pulled him on it.[/QUOTE]

Yet more eejitry.

You are trying to argue with a straight face that Connacht have better teams than Ulster. The same Connacht that hasn’t won a provincial title since 2001 are apparently more effective than Ulster counties who have won 4 titles since then.

This next comment:
“Northern football consists of nine counties the majority of which havent been a factor in knock out championship football in recent times.”
takes some beating.

Would you care to name which provinces you might include in a list of provinces where the majority of counties have been a factor in knock out championship football in recent times?

So you’ll need four from Munster please or seven from Leinster or three from Connacht (actually you need four because there’s 7 in that championship).

[quote=“therock67”]Yet more eejitry.

You are trying to argue with a straight face that Connacht have better teams than Ulster. The same Connacht that hasn’t won a provincial title since 2001 are apparently more effective than Ulster counties who have won 4 titles since then.

[/QUOTE]

I agree with you there but I would have preferred if you used Leinster as the example as their last All Ireland came in 1999 and more Connacht teams than Leinster teams have been involved in the final since then.

[quote=“therock67”]Yet more eejitry.

You are trying to argue with a straight face that Connacht have better teams than Ulster.

No I’m saying that Galway and Mayo are better than the 8 other Northern football counties, Tyrone aside.

The same Connacht that hasn’t won a provincial title since 2001 are apparently more effective than Ulster counties who have won 4 titles since then.

??? Not that up to speed on the Railway Cup to be honest.

This next comment:
“Northern football consists of nine counties the majority of which havent been a factor in knock out championship football in recent times.”
takes some beating.

Would you care to name which provinces you might include in a list of provinces where the majority of counties have been a factor in knock out championship football in recent times?

So you’ll need four from Munster please or seven from Leinster or three from Connacht (actually you need four because there’s 7 in that championship).[/QUOTE]

It seems you have twisted from

“Northern football has shown itself to be the strongest element of gaelic football in recent times. That’s not even remotely debatable”

to a matter of debate. It a start. :clap: