Some day?
It’s a huge fucking issue. If they were fully private schools, then they have every right to let in who they want. But the overwhelming majority are taxpayer funded. The child of any taxpayer should be entitled to enter those schools without preference.
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Keep running away and throwing out glib remarks glas, you’re excelling at it.
If they’re catholic schools why should they be obliged to take in non Catholics ?
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If 80% of people declared themselves Catholic in the last census, it’s reasonable to assume that you’ve a similiar proportion of the taxpayers you’re on about who are Catholic and happy enough with the situation. I can’t see how it’s a “huge issue” for lads with no kids anyhow, aside from being something else to bitch about.
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Running away? What? I’ve given specifics, you’ve said “there are some excellent ceist schools”, as if some isolated successes disprove my overall assessment. So who’s running away?
What’s your opinion of the leaving cert? What’s your opinion on church control of primary schools and primary school teacher training? What’s your opinion on our utter failure at languages, including a mandatory dozen years or so learning Irish and most people still unable to speak it? Our handle on maths? The college entry system? Special needs support? Access to education?
In my opinion, an objective overall assessment of our education system, that of a rich nation that aims to be a knowledge based economy, would conclude that it is shit.
Refute or run along.
Because non-Catholics pay for those schools. Would you give non-Catholics a huge tax break to compensate?
I don’t think it is excellent but it is certainly not shit. There are many things I would change.
However, here are some things which are good and progressive.
Project maths was an excellent change. Maths was just that in my time in school. Sums or exercises disconnected from anything of relevance. They way maths questions are now phrased it contextualises the question and forces students to problem solve before they actually begin the sums bit.
The importance placed on stem subjects. Personally I don’t really agree with it but having decided we needed to push these subjects to educate our students for certain sectors we have put significant emphasis on it. Most schools are pushing these hugely and divert much resources towards them.
The irish course changed its marking to promote spoken irish. 40% of the marks now go for the oral as opposed to 20% when I was in school. There are many things I would change about the ways irish is taught in schools but this basic change forces people to pay much more attention to spoken irish and has raised the level of irish.
Our generality. I think it is excellent that students are exposed to as many subjects as possible. I was appalled at the general educational levels of most English people I met when working abroad. I think specialising to that degree is appalling for overall development. Also, personally I wasn’t ready to make big life choices at 18 and think like many others that I benefitted from exposure to as many different influences as possible.
I would change many many things within schools and the general education system. I also think there should be greater pressure on parents to engage more with their children’s education as this is one of the main drivers of high performance in education, aside from the additional familial benefits which would ensue.
My problem with @glasagusban and some other tards on here is that he shouts “it’s shit” and runs away. Doesn’t matter if it’s education, politics, health, etc. I suppose I think a fella like him with all the answers might try and effect change in some of these areas rather than being smug about it on the Internet.
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Just saw this glas. I will answer all these queries in an hour or two when on my laptop.
It’s a catholic country, therefor the vast, vast majority of tax payers are Catholics.
If you would like a non catholic school get the non Catholics together and fund it yourselves.
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Smashing. Are you a teacher or close to a teacher? You seem to have taken my comments personally. You’ll notice I didn’t criticise teachers, i criticised the system. I would be very critical of the teacher unions though, we can add them to my list of problems.
Incorrect. And I’m working my way towards being in a position to do something about it.
Hey @glasagusban, if the Irish education system is so shit then why do pupils from Irish schools win the Young Scientist Exhibition every year?
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Sometimes I wonder are you merely a very weak WUM or actually this stupid. It’s both actually.
The vast majority of the primary schools are owned by the church. Teaching wages are paid by the state, same as educate together etc.
They’re ringers mate. Foreign imports we’ve gotten in to try to raise the standards of those around them.
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Sometimes I wonder if you’re a complete spastic or a mildly annoying spastic. It’s both actually.
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You’re
The loudmouth minority. The Catholic haters.
Maybe these loudmouth knowitalls should try and enroll their children at the school in the Clonskeagh mosque, it’s state funded also and run by a Sunni Muslim cleric.
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Read articles 42 and 44 and the Education Act of 1998. The state guarantees free primary education to every child in the state (interpreted by the Supreme Court as up to age 18), interpreted as the state must provide schooling near your home. Schools cannot refuse entry to a child based on a range of factors including religious beliefs.
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