The Corruption Thread

Because we have limited resources.

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Iā€™m paying a mortgage for the house that my family of five, are living in.

We only became aware that we have Mica in the summer. We have hairline cracks evident that will get much worse, according to the engineer, over the coming winter.

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when there are people on the social housing list for 10 years, it is crazy to be building mansions for super rich people of Donegal, its not fair

Did you argue against the bank bail out when half the country were unemployed?

Thereā€™s families in Inishowen who have children afraid to sleep in their bedrooms because of the cracks in walls.

happy to sort this out for them once we cap the size of the houses that the tax payers will build for them & you change that attitude

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But it was fine for taxpayers in Donegal, and the rest of the country, to bail out the super rich bankers in Dublin for almost over 7.5 years with a 1% income levy.

they bailed out the banks mate, not the bankers

@croppy_boy - are you expecting these mansions to be furnished too? are you demanding islands & walk in wardrobes?

And it was fairies and pixies that misled the Government in relation to the debt that were owen and took risks that almost bankrupt the country?

Youā€™re showing how little you know about this now.

The scheme that has been proposed is to use all of the existing fixtures where possible. No one has demanded brand new furniture etc.

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size in what context? Dublin is a small City with a huge population. It doesnā€™t have the infrastructure to support that population and successive governments havenā€™t addressed it, in fact itā€™s getting worse.

Theyā€™re putting them there by not creating viable alternatives for people who have to leave rural Ireland because of their policies.

Does you graph above account for the commuter belt which is out as far Cavan now and spreading, because people canā€™t afford/find housing in Dublin

If all Dubs had TSG attitude ye should be bate back from the towns and villages yeā€™re invading to leave yeā€™re hell hole with shitty sticks and made live in squalor

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Thatā€™s a straw man.

I have a little certificate for AIB shares Iā€™m looking at that are worth less than ā‚¬100. The State consolidated the shareholding and the market did its thing, these were once worth 5 figures at ā€œmarket ratesā€. Thatā€™s life and thatā€™s investing, but I certainly donā€™t feel bailed out. The ā€œbail outā€ was a broad strokes cash injection that yes, let some off the hook, but also protected deposit holders and the entire economy from going tits up. We have since recouped a significant amount of the ā€œbail outā€ money with the real public debt being incurred on the unemployed you mention. Tbf, if we could have paid just ā‚¬40bn and the economy and public finances had recovered, that would have been a cheap price to pay.

I donā€™t see any correlation to the MICA situation and I think it does a disservice to it to compare the two. I donā€™t have an issue with some kind of redress but there does have to be limits to everything as we donā€™t have endless resources. Thatā€™s the sad reality. I also agree that we should pursue as many angles as possible on the people responsible to get them to pay what they can.

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Peopleā€™s whoā€™s house is falling down around them - fuck them, peasants.

People who fucked the entire country through greed - yeah I can see why they needed a few quid alright

Thatā€™s a complete ball of shite. You can absolutely compare the two situation, one was a corrupt banking sector and the other is a corrupt construction sector. The scale is different and the current situation is a much smaller one to solve.

But you seem to think that people who scrimped and saved to qualify for a mortgage should find some more funds somewhere to pay more money for a house that they could barely afford in the first place.

Thats not what he said. Pay attention.

Size in international context. There is a pattern in different countries called the law of the primate city.

That is what Ronan Lyons is referring to. In the case of Ireland, it is often talked about Cork being a bit smaller but we forget Belfast. We are an island that was only partitioned 100 years ago and at one stage Belfast rivalled Dublin. The relative size of Irish cities is not out of whack with international comparisons.

The policies of Ireland were focused on keeping rural Ireland alive for decades. This was swimming against the tide. If Cork and Limerick are to have a complaint, itā€™s that this focus on rural Ireland hurt them as well.

You are just making things up. I think there should be some redress but there has to be limits to it as unfortunately there is not an endless supply of money. I think the State should provide direct subsidies and also indirectly help people. I donā€™t think we should be finding all these homes to specs demanded.

does it take into account the commuter belt and people travelling up to 90 minutes to go into Dublin?

explain this?

Do other cities not have commuter towns?