The depression thread

I haven’t followed up today anyway. I think I’ll need to go out there in person. It’s not on the lost property list.

The hospital say I would have got an “inventory” of what I had that was put into safe keeping when I went in there. I got no such inventory, I did have a nurse tell me verbally what had been put in safe keeping for me but that was the first afternoon I was in there and my mind was away with the fairies and the hospital says a phone was not on their inventory.

It’s not on the railway line anyway because I rang my mother from the level crossing at Roscam. I think I had to give it to a Garda shortly afterwards, before I got in the van.

Has anybody any experience with a drug called quetiapine?

I had one tablet of it about 9pm last night and I feel awful since. My brother had a programme on about the Ana Kriegel murder which I listened to while falling asleep. After that finished I went to bed and conked out fairly quickly and had some very unpleasant dreams. Then this morning I could barely wag and had a fight with my brother. After that I had a dreadful episode and felt like I was being pulled down to the ground by ropes or something and missed my counselling though I think I wanted to miss it. I slept for a further four hours then. I still feel fairly dreadful. The only three times I’ve been out of the house since I got out of the unit have been to go to a thing called the day hospital in Ballybane twice and once to the GP. I don’t feel there’s any improvement at all with my eye and I can’t even look at a television. I’ve become obsessed with only looking through the gammy eye and seeing squiggly lines. I haven’t had any suicide attempts or experiments since I got out of the hospital on January 3rd but I feel another one is probably not far away.

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It’s prescribed off label for insomnia. Knocks people out - body feels heavy etc. If you don’t need it for that it’s not a great side effect.

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A psychiatrist gave me a prescription for it because I told her I was taking sleeping tablets (zopiclone) on and off and that I had taken a few Anxicalm tablets since a got out. Anxicalm are supposed to be addictive whereas the quetiapine is not supposed to be.

Body feels very heavy since I took it, I had trouble even speaking coherently this morning.

Also tomorrow is the second anniversary of my father’s death and I think I am worried about how to deal with it.

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I’d say your body is telling you all you need to know about them tablets. Fuck them in the bin. I’m a terrible sleeper and have been since my teens. I started taking CBD oil last summer and it has helped me enormously although I know others have found it fairly useless. The other thing I’ve started taking recently is Nytol which is over the counter in pharmacies. I’d be fairly groggy for the first hour after waking up so I don’t take them during the week but I’ve probably taken it about 5 or 6 times in the last 2 months and each time I slept for about 8 or 9 hours so it’s fucking great for catching up on sleep when I feel I really need it. Might be worth trying one or both of those.

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I know absolutely nothing about CBD oil or associated products. Any chance you or anybody else could do a dummy’s guide to it?

My mother is in her late 70s and was behaving very erratically last summer and was put on it. Its an anti psychotic drug too. Its worked really well for her but truth be told she was probably prescribed it 50 years too late.

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Agree, nytol is great stuff.

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@Cheasty if you’re looking for something for sleep with no side effects I can send you on a jar of melatonin tablets I’ve brought back from the US. Completely natural and just a small bit of grogginess the following morning. The yanks would pop them like vitamins

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Do not do this.

Stick with it for a week or two and record how you feel if at all possible. These drugs are trial and error but they do need a small period of time to work effectively. Let the psychiatrist know as much as possible, good and bad about what happens when you take it and keep the intake consistent. They will find something that works for you.

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It’s extracted from canabis but doesn’t have any THC in it which is the part of canabis that gets you high. It’s then mixed with a natural oil. It is thought to help with anxiety, some sleep disorders and some chronic pain issues. It’s efficacy is widely debated but I can only tell you my experience of it. Last year I started having a sleeping issue whereby I would get to sleep at maybe 12 or 1am but wake up 1.5 or 2 hours later and that would be it for the night. This was happening 3 to 5 nights a week and went on for a couple of months which was completely debilitating. I started taking 3 or 4 drops of CBD oil under my tongue every night. The first night I slept for about 12 hours missing 3 morning meetings after sleeping through alarms but I’d say that was just the culmination of so little sleep. I take the drops every night since and I think the waking up thing has happened twice since which is probably 7 or months. It’s about 35 quid for a bottle where I get it in Stephen’s Green which would last me about 6 weeks.

It’s worth a try it has hugely helped me but I know others have tried it and found it to be no help so maybe it depends on people’s biology or metabolism who knows.

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My experience and that of others I know of prescription sleeping tablets is not good. The first time I took one I got a great nights sleep, bit less the next night and so on until they stopped working completely and my sleeping was worse than ever for weeks after I stopped taking them. One of my best friends is addicted to them for over 10 years and his sleeping is still awful. Maybe they work for some people but I’d run a mile from them personally.

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He isn’t talking about sleeping tablets mate

Ok I’ve only seen @binkybarnes post about them being used for anti psychotic purposes I thought it was only sleeping so maybe ignore that part of my post @Cheasty but try out the CBD oil and the Nytol.

Not true taking melatonin tablets for any sort of decent period is bad for you.

In comparison to the other stuff they’re better and less damaging but agree you wouldn’t want to be taking them indefinitely. The American attitude to them is gas though. Eating em like skittles, even feeding them to the kids to help them sleep

Studies have shown it can stunt puberty. Has shrunk the balls of hamsters in trials too so clearly fucking up the inner workings. Think from what I’ve read and heard it is fine in a pinch to help you adjust to time zones or general jet lag. Problem is a lot of melatonin supplements have very high doses so you’d want to be careful with the brand and product if you’d still be willing to give it a go.

Thats interesting to know. Any Walmart or drug store sells them by the bucket load. Dosage usually minimum of 5mg and a max of 20mg I think. I’ve only ever bought the 5mg as I’d be too worried what the larger dosage would do

CND oil is fucking great. Needs to be broadcasted more.

Theres a young fella in cork farming it, legally

Best be wary of taking advice from hamster-balls @Mac lads

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