Do they keep you hanging around?
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Any particular specs to look for? Yeah type 2 is what i need and i assume the other end is standard.
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It is the vehicle which determines the rate at which the battery is charged. Some cars are fitted with a 16A charger and will only charge at this maximum rate. If you use a 32A Charger and Cable the charging rate will not be increased. The charging capacity is determined by the vehicle.
However, even if you have a 16A capacity vehicle now there is a possibility that your next vehicle may have 32A charging capability.
32A cables are heavier and thicker than 16A cables to cope with the extra power travelling through them.
Chiose a 32A Charger or Cable if possible as your EV Charger and Cable will continue to be used for many years even if you change vehicle.
Copy and paste job.
Slow charger better for the battery’s overall health.
Donedeal i got 2nd hand fast charger
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Somethi g to plug i to the public car parks when doing the shopping be grand plugged in for 40 mins thinkong this will be great, not much help tbh
Yeah or the esb ones in fat pats motorway eateries. Need the fast one
There won’t be a petrol / diesel car on the road in ten years.
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There will be petrol. Watch for the F1 2026 regulations. Be interesting if it can be achieved
Thats the plan a piss and a quick bit to get a few extra miles really
Sorry to go back on the previous discussions, but your main difference between rapid or fast charging is defined by AC or DC charging.
AC charging is what you do at home, the standard zappi or wallbox with a tethered charger will charge to a max of 7kw per hour (unless you get 3 phase in and go for a 22kw charger), so you can judge by your battery size how long it takes. Your 3 pin plug charger, or granny cable, does about 2kw per hour.
DC charging is what most public chargers are. Standard type 2 plugs fit this (and the leafs with their stupid chademo chargers). They range in speed up to 22kw per hour, altho some cars on dc charging with type 2 only do a max of 11kw. As far as I know, only tesla, renault zoe and those clever chinese BYD can do 22kw on a type 2. These are mainly untethered units so needs your own type 2 cable which comes with the car. This is the cable i believe @Heyyoubehindthebushes is looking for to connect the car to a public dc charger. Note you’ll prob only be charging at 11kw per hour on this "fast charger’.
Your ccs charger then is your proper fast charger (tethered like @Little_Lord_Fauntleroy noted), like ionity which can go up to 350kw per hour, but not all cars can get that speed. There are a few charging points with 150kw per hour speeds also on the ccs, but depends on the car and what it can do. Very quick search, but this site here has a list of a lot of cars and their max charging speed capability
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Thanks for the info. Ill be getting a zappie charger installed at home and work use a epower chargers, the cable i have will do for those in the main and might get the type 2 for the service stations. Its only a 12kw battery i believe for a phev but want to maximise what i get on the ev as my commute could be done on the ev easily.
I only got 1kw in 45 mins today and i was thinking this is a cod where i would was hoping to get a bigger bang for using the parking space next to the door 
Bargain prices at used EV auctions
Prices for second-hand electric cars are on the floor, so there are savings to be made for savvy buyers
With prices for used electric cars currently pretty much on the floor, there has in all honesty never been a better time to nab yourself a run on the electric car ownership ladder. Bargains are there to be had thanks in largest part to the savage price-cuts being applied to new electric models.
While that’s unquestionably bad news for those who previously bought new EVs at their older, higher prices (and it seems to be at least partially responsible for the dampening of electric car sales around the world right now), for those buying second- hand it means that you can snap up a high-end, high-performance, long-range electric car for buttons.
As it has always been, the auction site is often the best place to go for the ultimate in bargains. After all, auctions are where car dealers usually go to pick up second- hand stock, so you can often be buying at what is effectively the wholesale price. Buying at auction has long been a sometimes scary prospect for the average second-hand car buyer, not least because there’s usually no chance for a pre-purchase test drive, and only the most cursory examination of a car’s condition can usually be made before it crosses the block. However, with homework done and the right attitude firmly in mind, buying at auction has been and can be a financially rewarding experience.
Battery
Does that hold true for an electric car, though? Clearly, when buying a second- hand EV, the most critical aspect of all is the health of the battery, and that can be tricky to assess at auction.
Merlin O’Reilly, from the eponymous Merlin Car Auctions in Naas, one of Ireland’s biggest vehicle auctioneers, says that right now, some of the information on a car’s battery can be limited. “We have a machine that can read the health of a battery, but for now it only works on Nissan Leafs,” O’Reilly told The Irish Times. “If you weren’t able to check that, and you were buying, say, a 2012 Leaf which maybe had a 200km range when it was new, and now it only has 50 per cent battery capacity left, well you’d want to live fairly close to the shops. Ultimately, I think cars like this are almost disposable.”
That seems to be a view increasingly echoed by the motor trade as a whole. From a time not so long ago when buying a new Tesla would mean you could probably move it along for almost the same price a year down the road, now second-hand EV values have plummeted, battery-powered cars are sticking stubbornly to forecourts, and many dealers are reluctant to accept EVs as trade-ins.
“As an example, we had a 222-registration Volkswagen ID.4 in here, which brand new would cost you around €41,000,” said O’Reilly. “It looks brand new, and we put it up at auction with an initial bid of €20,000. And we got nothing. Not a single bidder. Two years and half price? It just doesn’t make sense. It would make someone an absolutely lovely car, at a terrific price.”
That particular ID.4 was being disposed of by a finance provider, which means that a previous owner had either handed it back to clear a car finance debt, or it had been repossessed for delinquent repayments. While that might sound a bit tragic, it does mean that such vehicles can make almost ridiculous bargains for those prepared to shop for them.
According to O’Reilly, finance providers trying to move cars on will generally set a reserve price, but they can often be flexible as to whether a car will be let go for less. That said, a bank or finance house can’t be seen to undersell their cars either, as such a move would wreck the confidence on which such finance is provided, but there is certainly wiggle room for a canny buyer here.
“Looking specifically at that ID.4, I’d say if someone who was keen on it had been here last week, at €22,000 they would own that car today,” agrees O’Reilly. “And next week that could be €18,000. Ultimately, we didn’t have a live bidder, but the banks are aware of all this and that’s why there’s caution around electric cars. For example, they underwrote loads of Teslas, only for €10,000 to be knocked off the new price, and that hit all the finance companies with electric cars on their books. Once one price goes backwards, they all start to fall back.”
Value
O’Reilly compares the current situation with electric cars to the 2008 change in the motor tax regime that was often criticised for not having been sufficiently flagged up ahead of time. Overnight, thousands of euro were wiped off the value of the second-hand fleet in Ireland, because suddenly petrol-powered cars were perceived to be, and to an extent were, paying higher taxes.
“I get the feeling that the electric cars we’re seeing now are kind of the Betamax video before VHS,” says O’Reilly. “There’s a lot of talk about hydrogen power, there’s a lot of talk about revolutionary new batteries, and I think until we see exactly what’s happening, and until the charging network improves enough, I just don’t think we’ve landed with this yet.”
Still, if the trade is reluctant when it comes to EVs, that most certainly means bargains for the dedicated buyer. Simon Acton, of Next Eco Car – a specialist second-hand electric car dealer in Dún Laoghaire – told me: “I buy a certain amount of stock from auctions in the UK, so I wouldn’t say that it’s particularly risky, but you need to know what you are doing.”
Acton’s best advice is two-fold – battery health and warranty. “I would always be looking for models I have previous experience with and which have battery warranty left, and of course the necessary service history, to ensure the battery warranty is still valid. We would then run our own battery test when the vehicle arrives. I’ve not had an issue buying this way as yet. If I had, the warranty would be my fallback.” Most car makers offer an eight-year warranty for the vehicle’s battery, usually with a limit of 160,000km.
Any idea where one would source something like that id4 for that price?
Try merlin car auctions Mate
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Sounds like a case of buyers remorse
Not the finest idea remotely I don’t think tbh