Since when have I ever insisted that I have the last word? I give my opinion on music, sure most of the stuff I advocate is not always the most conventional but all the rest is just a myth that everyone seems to buy into.
Anyway, I don’t rate Oasis. I never have. I get annoyed when the likes of Noel Gallagher is portrayed as some kind of musical genius when I clearly think there are so many more deserving of such a title ahead of him. In the overall scheme of things he is insignificant.
As for the biggest band - what does that matter? Westlife could possibly be construed as a ‘big band’. I find it startling as well that advocators of Oasis could do so above someone like Radiohead. Both began with rather conventional rock songs (nothingh wrong with that) but Radiohead started to progress and introduce new intstruments and a different sound. Oasis however stood still, and I would not hang them for that, but they stood still and got progressively worse.
[quote=“farmerinthecity”]Since when have I ever insisted that I have the last word? I give my opinion on music, sure most of the stuff I advocate is not always the most conventional but all the rest is just a myth that everyone seems to buy into.
Anyway, I don’t rate Oasis. I never have. I get annoyed when the likes of Noel Gallagher is portrayed as some kind of musical genius when I clearly think there are so many more deserving of such a title ahead of him. In the overall scheme of things he is insignificant.
As for the biggest band - what does that matter? Westlife could possibly be construed as a ‘big band’. I find it startling as well that advocators of Oasis could do so above someone like Radiohead. Both began with rather conventional rock songs (nothingh wrong with that) but Radiohead started to progress and introduce new intstruments and a different sound. Oasis however stood still, and I would not hang them for that, but they stood still and got progressively worse.[/QUOTE]
[quote=“myboyblue”]Noel Gallagher was the voice of a generation in the 90’s, the poet laureate of the masses.
Respect.[/QUOTE]
Poet Laureate is slightly over the top! But definitely the voice that defined the 90’s and the entire Brit Pop culture that was all the rage at the time.
Possibly a little much, but his music spoke to a generation, and he epitomised that generation. There’s not many who won’t look back teary eyed when listening to classics like Wonderwall, Married With Children, Cigs & Alcohol, Whatever, Live Forever, Champagne Supernova.
All classics, all the work of a truly unique voice.
[quote=“farmerinthecity”]Since when have I ever insisted that I have the last word? I give my opinion on music, sure most of the stuff I advocate is not always the most conventional but all the rest is just a myth that everyone seems to buy into.
Anyway, I don’t rate Oasis. I never have. I get annoyed when the likes of Noel Gallagher is portrayed as some kind of musical genius when I clearly think there are so many more deserving of such a title ahead of him. In the overall scheme of things he is insignificant.
As for the biggest band - what does that matter? Westlife could possibly be construed as a ‘big band’. I find it startling as well that advocators of Oasis could do so above someone like Radiohead. Both began with rather conventional rock songs (nothingh wrong with that) but Radiohead started to progress and introduce new intstruments and a different sound. Oasis however stood still, and I would not hang them for that, but they stood still and got progressively worse.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, thats the point, you go out of your way to “Advocate” un-conventional music… I’m Farmer i’m in the know, and then gives little nods of approval like a big brother, when others suggest such “un-conventional” music… Its sad really and stinks of attention seeking.
As for Oasis, they are the voice of a generation and the reason why many of the decent bands around today started playing music… If you didnt have your head in the cluods looking to be so un-conventional you would have heard that voice!!
Happy living in that time and not branching out. Things have changed y’know. It’s not 1995 anymore.[/QUOTE]
It’ll always be 1995 when listening back to those albums though farmer. They were of their time. Just because subsequent works couldnt reach those (admittedly stratospheric) heights shouldnt dim the genius that encapsulated Definitely Maybe and Morning Glory.
The likes of The Stones Roses haven’t exactly reinvented the wheel lately. They did what they had to do in there time. Their job was done. Oasis gave their service to music in the mid 90’s, anything after that is just a bonus.
[quote=“ChocolateMice”]Yeah, thats the point, you go out of your way to “Advocate” un-conventional music… I’m Farmer i’m in the know, and then gives little nods of approval like a big brother, when others suggest such “un-conventional” music… Its sad really and stinks of attention seeking.
As for Oasis, they are the voice of a generation and the reason why many of the decent bands around today started playing music… If you didnt have your head in the cluods looking to be so un-conventinal you would have heard that voice!![/QUOTE]
Go way to fuck out of that. Yeah I post up unconventional music. I hear of a song that is good and I post it with the aim of sharing it with others.
It is you that has the fucking problem that when you see it you think it is someone just attention seeking.
Thats a fine point runty. Why are certain band devalued as a result of their later works when other bands who didnt even try are lauded and lamented for not putting out more work?
[quote=“farmerinthecity”]Go way to fuck out of that. Yeah I post up unconventional music. I hear of a song that is good and I post it with the aim of sharing it with others.
It is you that has the fucking problem that when you see it you think it is someone just attention seeking.
You ignorant prick.[/QUOTE]
It has been well established, by members closer to home, that you thrawl the net and all the “Cool” magazines trying to find music that is a little “out there” so you can post it up… It’s a little in house joke in some quarters, so i’d look a little closer at your so called mates before lashing out at me.
[quote=“farmerinthecity”]Go way to fuck out of that. Yeah I post up unconventional music. I hear of a song that is good and I post it with the aim of sharing it with others.
[/QUOTE]
Nothing worse than these music snobs. Always trying to show off their coolness by talking up some unknown new band. 9 times out of 10 they are fooking shite.
[quote=“ChocolateMice”]Yeah, thats the point, you go out of your way to “Advocate” un-conventional music… I’m Farmer i’m in the know, and then gives little nods of approval like a big brother, when others suggest such “un-conventional” music… Its sad really and stinks of attention seeking.
As for Oasis, they are the voice of a generation and the reason why many of the decent bands around today started playing music… If you didnt have your head in the cluods looking to be so un-conventional you would have heard that voice!![/QUOTE]
Top post,
As I’ve said before, I had the misfortune to share a car journey from Dublin city to west Cork with Farmer last year and his music snobbery was astounding.
He made me feel small, which I was next to him, as he explained condescendingly why the songs he was playing were the best songs.
He wouldn’t even let me listen to the music myself and appreciate it, or not, in its own right. Instead, he actually gave a commentary as the songs were playing:
‘Wait a sec now, instrumental kicking in, chiming guitars about to explode, brilliant, fade out coming up shortly - ah what a song, that’s one of the best songs of the 1990s. Tindersticks are amazing’ and so on and so on.
As I’ve said before, I had the misfortune to share a car journey from Dublin city to west Cork with Farmer last year and his music snobbery was astounding.
He made me feel small, which I was next to him, as he explained condescendingly why the songs he was playing were the best songs.
He wouldn’t even let me listen to the music myself and appreciate it, or not, in its own right. Instead, he actually gave a commentary as the songs were playing:
‘Wait a sec now, instrumental kicking in, chiming guitars about to explode, brilliant, fade out coming up shortly - ah what a song, that’s one of the best songs of the 1990s. Tindersticks are amazing’ and so on and so on.
It was excruciating in the extreme.[/QUOTE]
Ah that cant be true can it? You’re taking the piss surely?
Just read through that post again and open your eyes about how fucking insular you are. ‘Cool’, ‘out there’ - fuck off will ya.
As for the in house joke, I am well aware of it. Unfortunately the likes of Bandage may take the same view of the situation as you and I have no problem calling him an ignorant prick either if he put up a post like you did.
All talk about big bands is bollox anyway. Amount of records you sell is no way a mark of how good you are. Oasis did sell a lot of records but that doesn’t count for much imo. Their success was mainly confined to these islands and this is something people forget when they are talked about as being the biggest band in the world. Find the whole idea of being the biggest band in the world a bit stupid anyway. Bono always goes on about it but his aim should be best band in the world and not the biggest.
Not liking radio friendly music isn’t definition of someone who is a music snob. Not liking Oasis isn’t being a music snob either. I liked Oasis and first band I really got into but find their music doesn’t have longevity of others.
[quote=“larryduff”]All talk about big bands is bollox anyway. Amount of records you sell is no way a mark of how good you are. Oasis did sell a lot of records but that doesn’t count for much imo. Their success was mainly confined to these islands and this is something people forget when they are talked about as being the biggest band in the world. Find the whole idea of being the biggest band in the world a bit stupid anyway. Bono always goes on about it but his aim should be best band in the world and not the biggest.
Not liking radio friendly music isn’t definition of someone who is a music snob. Not liking Oasis isn’t being a music snob either. I liked Oasis and first band I really got into but find their music doesn’t have longevity of others.[/QUOTE]
I dont think this is anything to do with the biggest band in the world Lar, more to do with the positives of Oasis and how they defined the 90’s from a music point of view for so many people.
Obviously this would be reflected in their sales, as all these people liked the music, but its more to do with the fact that on a show like “Reeling in the Years” for those years, you couldnt imagine any other band defining the period quite like Noel’s mob.
