As I’ve said before, I had the misfortune to share a car journey from Dublin city to west Cork with Farmer last year and his music snobbery was astounding.
He made me feel small, which I was next to him, as he explained condescendingly why the songs he was playing were the best songs.
He wouldn’t even let me listen to the music myself and appreciate it, or not, in its own right. Instead, he actually gave a commentary as the songs were playing:
‘Wait a sec now, instrumental kicking in, chiming guitars about to explode, brilliant, fade out coming up shortly - ah what a song, that’s one of the best songs of the 1990s. Tindersticks are amazing’ and so on and so on.
It was excruciating in the extreme.[/QUOTE]
On the same journey Bandage was begging for me to ask him the songs to select so he might open his mind:
I asked him to play something by The National - he was posting the song up here a week later.
He was raving on about Fujiya and Myagi for ages afterwards as well after my recommendation on that journey.
But don’t let lies get in the way of facts you ignorant prick.
[quote=“farmerinthecity”]Just read through that post again and open your eyes about how fucking insular you are. ‘Cool’, ‘out there’ - fuck off will ya.
As for the in house joke, I am well aware of it. Unfortunately the likes of Bandage may take the same view of the situation as you and I have no problem calling him an ignorant prick either if he put up a post like you did.
Gobshite.[/QUOTE]
Thats just lovely language there Farmer… Why dont you take the latest addition of NME from your drawer, and go to the crapper and have a good shite for your self and calm down.
I said it here before when Farmer and Sid had an arguement about Oasis, it is all a matter of taste, i personally think Oasis are a cracking band who have had some excellent tunes and some mediocre tunes but then again I am not an expert and self appointed foremost authority on music like Farmer…
Tis gas the way he feels he always has to be right(in his mind) when it comes to music, I remember MBB making a couple of points about some Irish band(who’s name escapes me) and farmer shot him down completely telling him he hadn’t a clue when it was fairly obvious that farmer was waffling
That is a fact, but who is farmer to belittle anyone on their taste of music…some people rate oasis some people don’t, don’t see why farmer has to make such a big deal about it and go out of his way to cut them down…live and let live
[quote=“The Puke”]I said it here before when Farmer and Sid had an arguement about Oasis, it is all a matter of taste, i personally think Oasis are a cracking band who have had some excellent tunes and some mediocre tunes but then again I am not an expert and self appointed foremost authority on music like Farmer…
Tis gas the way he feels he always has to be right(in his mind) when it comes to music, I remember MBB making a couple of points about some Irish band(who’s name escapes me) and farmer shot him down completely telling him he hadn’t a clue when it was fairly obvious that farmer was waffling[/QUOTE]
You show me where I said I was the ‘self appointed foremost authority on music’. Open your eyes - it is your insular view and failure to open your eyes that makes me look like a snob in your heads.
As for that debate with MBB, you care to show me where it was obvious that I hadn’t a clue and was waffling.
[quote=“myboyblue”]I dont think this is anything to do with the biggest band in the world Lar, more to do with the positives of Oasis and how they defined the 90’s from a music point of view for so many people.
Obviously this would be reflected in their sales, as all these people liked the music, but its more to do with the fact that on a show like “Reeling in the Years” for those years, you couldnt imagine any other band defining the period quite like Noel’s mob.[/QUOTE]
Yeah fair enough. Their sales are good but not astonishing. For me there were far better albums in the 90’s than Definetly Maybe, Whats The Story Morning Glory and Be Here Now. All down to taste though as another poster said.
That is a fact, but who is farmer to belittle anyone on their taste of music…some people rate oasis some people don’t, don’t see why farmer has to make such a big deal about it and go out of his way to cut them down…live and let live[/QUOTE]
Go out ot my way to cut them down?
I disagree with them. It is a forum right - that’s what we do here.
It is up to them to build themselves back up again but often they choose not to and decide to fall back on the music snob line.
i knew when farmer said that walking into the Phoenix park while the Pixies had already started their set was like ‘walking into the light’ that he has his mush stuck in music mags too often to be healthy.
[quote=“farmerinthecity”]You show me where I said I was the ‘self appointed foremost authority on music’. Open your eyes - it is your insular view and failure to open your eyes that makes me look like a snob in your heads.
As for that debate with MBB, you care to show me where it was obvious that I hadn’t a clue and was waffling.
No? I didn’t think so.[/QUOTE]
MBB referneced a story that Glenn Hansard told about whoever that lead singer chapp was that validated his point, you dismissed this out of hand for two reasons, it contradicted your point and secondly you didn’t rate hansard as a musician so his opinion was irrelavent in your opinion, if that isn’t having your head in the sand and waffling I don’t know…
Farmer seems exactly like a mate of mine who is also rabbiting on about new bands I should listen to, then a few months later I might spot that they are playing the Olympia or somewhere and ask him if he’s going, he’ll be like “Na, they’re gone too mainstream now, everybody is listening to them”.
[quote=“HBV*”]i knew when farmer said that walking into the Phoenix park while the Pixies had already started their set was like ‘walking into the light’ that he has his mush stuck in music mags too often to be healthy.
he is even a music mag snob also it seems.[/QUOTE]
You blame ‘those evil music magazines’ for me coming up with a line like that?
Good God.
But go on - call me a snob. If it easier for you rather than face up to the fact that you are a Neanderthal stuck in your ways then fine.
[quote=“farmerinthecity”]You care to show me where it validated his point?
And where I disagreed with it because:
it contradicted mine
I didn’t rate Hansard as a musician[/QUOTE]
I couldn’t be arsed going looking for the thread as I can’t even remember the name of the band or the singer but you said that Hansard only said that because he was jeaslous as he was nowhere near as talented as that chap you were on about and what he said was a load of bollocks, yet it validated mbb’s arguement, yet you brought no evidence to the debate to validate your own points about the chap…
MBB if you get a chance could you stick up a link to whatever thread that was on…
I doubt I’ll ever feel different. So all this is pretty pointless.
Farmer does seem to have a hard on for obscure music. Fair enough. The problem comes when he on one hand endorses tiny bands and pans more recogised ones. It’s kinda like saying yeah United are shit, but Walsall, man they are class. Like it or not Farmer, Oasis are a big draw and they do not just live off their first two albums. There is no Oasis album that is end to end shite. There are usually 3-5 excellent songs on each. I’ll agree some of their albums may have too many songs that people would categorise as filler songs but I ignore those while people like you emphasise them.
I try to keep out of this music discussion shite[see linked post above]. I’ll agree with someone if they put up something I like. I’d rarely disagree about music because most of the stuff mentioned I’ve probably never listened to, and probably have no intention to listen to. With music I find that you have to want to like the music you are listening to. If I go to a gig I’ll listen to the supporting band but I’m here for the main event, I’m pretty indifferent to the support unless I know them previously. If after a few songs they haven’t caught my full attention then I’ll probably just tune out.
Farmer, I’d say you want everything to be good because it seems as though you are semi obsessed with being the first guy to listen to the next big thing. The perception of you around here is that you like to have the final say on all music related matters which in truth hampers any meaningful discussions about music that people are listening to.
