13 points off the top in 6th place
And what was his net spend?
About 200m
Klopp is doing some job so to be above United
Maybe Conte is a way better manager.
The 14 players that Chelsea used against Crystal Palace cost about £297 million in transfer fees. The 14 players that Liverpool used against Everton tonight cost about £205 million.
CHELSEA
Courtois - £9m
Azpilicueta -£7m
David Luiz - £30
Cahill - £7m
Moses - £7m
Kanté -£30m
Matic - £21m
Alonso - £23m
Willian - £30m
Costa - £32m
Hazard - £32m
Subs: Fabregas £27m
Batshuayi - £33m
Ivanovic - £9m
LIVERPOOL
Mignolet - £9m
Clyne - £10m
Lovren - £20,
Klavan - £4m
Milner - Free
Lallana - £25m
Henderson - £16m
Wijnaldum - £23m
Mané - £30m
Origi - £10m
Firmino - £21m
Subs: Can - £10m
Lucas - £5m
Sturridge - £12m
In terms of weekly wages, top earners at both clubs:
CHELSEA
Hazard - £200k
Costa - £185k
Fabregas - £156k
Courtois - £120k
Luiz - £120k
Kante - £110k
Willian - £110k
Matic - £90k
Cahill - £85k
LIVERPOOL
Sturridge - £120k
Henderson - £100k
Mane - £90k
Wijnaldum - £90k
Coutinho - £75k
Clyne - £70k
Lovren - £65k
Mignolet - £60k
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Considering the respective quality of the two squads I would say they are around equal. I would rate Klopp’s achievements before joining Liverpool a small bit ahead of Conte’s before joining Chelsea
Don’t forget £120k a week James Milner, Geoff.
Considering Klopp is the highest earner at Liverpool I would expect more from him, using @ChocolateMice logic.
Simeone probably shouldn’t have bothered at Atletico.
Of course Liverpool had to pay high wages to secure a manager of Klopp’s level as they don’t have a squad that would entice managers of that calibre to join. I don’t understand the reference to Simeone
Simeone won despite having a resource chasm that puts Liverpool’s perceived inadequacy to shame.
Liverpool have also finished ahead of Chelsea in two of the past three seasons but don’t let those facts put you off a subjective driven nonsense.
Klopp achieved as much as Simeone has in similar circumstances at Dortmund, surprised you left that out. Another thing in common between Simeone at Atletico and Klopp at Dortmund is that it took both of them two seasons before they started winning things. On this basis it will be next season when Klopp begins to really challenge with Liverpool
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No, he didn’t.
How do you make that out? Klopp won two Bundesliga’s and got to a Champions League Final while Simeone won one La Liga and got to two Champions League Finals. Pretty similar if you ask me
Conte is a fraud. He’ll be found out before year end
Simeone had to take on the might of Real and Barca, without question the two superpowers of European football in that time and he beat them.
Klopp won a couple of titles against a stuttering Bayern side but as soon as they got their act together they steamrolled him and Klopp left with Dortmund battling relegation.
Klopp’s job with Dortmund was impressive, Simeone’s is remarkable with Atletico.
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Bayern got to a Champions League Final which they should have won in one of the years Dortmund won the league. Is 7th in the league battling relegation now? Atletico are in a similar position in the league now so I guess they’ll have to worry about relegation as well then.
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Atletico weren’t bottom of the table at the halfway stage, nor will they be. The Bundesliga was at an unusual state of flux when Klopp took over Dortmund. Bayern were not the superpower they now are and had many indifferent seasons.
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Bayern were just on the way back up when Dortmund started winning. They got to the Champions League Final in the second season Dortmund won the league, Dortmund broke the record for most points in a Bundesliga season at the time that year.
There isn’t much a manager can do when a team gets 91 points from 34 games as Bayern did the following season and Klopp wisely focused on the Champions League that year and that helped Dortmund to beat Real Madrid in the semi final of the Champions League as well as finishing above them in the group stage and losing the final to a last minute goal, again similar to the way Simeone lost his two finals.
The next season was similar with Bayern again getting 90 points and this time Dortmund were beaten by Real Madrid by a goal who went on to defeat Atletico in the final.
Bayern won the Bundesliga by 10 points in 2007/08 the season before Klopp took over at Dortmund. That was Bayern’s 6th Bundesliga win in the first nine seasons of the noughties, matching their record haul of six Bundesliga titles in the same decade in the 1980’s. You’re just peddling lies now.,
The season before Klopp assumed the reins at Dortmund. Dortmund finished 13th in 2007/08, in 2006/07 they finished 9th, in 2005/06 they finished 7th, in 2004/05 they finished 7th. In short Dortmund were nowhere when Klopp took over. By 2011/12 season end, they were back to back champions under Klopp.
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