The GAA thread - part deux

To bring back a long-forgotten custom, exalt.

No offence to anyone on it but that is quite a rubbish team.

From hoganstand.com

Nolan returns for Wexford

02 March 2007

Stephen Nolan has been named in the Wexford midfield for his first start of the season ahead of the NHL Division 1A clash with Clare.

The Model County side shows just two personnel changes from the side which lost to Kilkenny in last Sundays Walsh Cup final.

Nolan comes into midfield with Eoin Quigley moving to centre forward and Richie Kehoe pushing up to full forward. As a result, Pat Doran drops down to the bench.

Mitch Jordan also loses out with Stephen Banville coming in at left half forward.

Rory McCarthy resumes at midfield with Rory Jacob switching back to the full forward line.

Wexford (NHL v Clare) - D Fitzhenry; M Travers, D OConnor, P Roche; C Lawlor, K Rossiter, C Kenny; S Nolan, R McCarthy, M Jacob, E Quigley, S Banville, P Carley, R Kehoe, R Jacob. Subs E Martin, W Doran, M Jordan, R Codd, M Doyle, T Mahon, P Doran, K Kavanagh, D Morton.

Outstanding stuff by Wexico.

Superb listening to it on local radio. Boys going nuts.

All we want is pride and passion. That’s what we got.

Get fooking in there. Le croi agus lamh.

There is intercounty rivalry and then there is this - what a shower of bastards

Roscommon have hit out at the decision to re-fix the postponed NFL game between Leitrim and London for a neutral venue on Sunday week, March 18.

The original fixture was cancelled last Sunday week because of a waterlogged pitch in Ruislip which left Leitrim counting the cost of a wasted journey to London. The Connacht county were adamant that they shouldnt have to travel over to London again and the Competition Control Committee (CCC) had decided to reschedule the game for Newbridge.

But this decision hasnt gone down well with Leitrims Division 2 rivals Roscommon who feel an unfair advantage has now been handed to Dessie Dolans team on the basis that playing London on Irish soil is a lot easier than playing them in Ruislip and score differences could have huge consequences when the final league tables are drawn up.

Roscommon chairman Michael Maguire said: We dont have any issue with Leitrim. They were entitled to make the request that they did.

But you see by their results that London at home and London away are two different propositions. We are disappointed with the Controls Committee in Croke Park for not realising this. Of course there is a cost issue. But the issue of qualifiers or Tommy Murphy could be a lot more serious by early April.
In such a tight group, it could come down to scoring difference to see who is playing Tommy Murphy Cup and who isnt, he added.

GAA PRO Danny Lynch insisted that the decision to re-fix the game for a neutral venue doesnt set a precedent.

There is no precedent being set, he claimed.

Short and simple there is no guarantee that the pitch in Ruislip would be playable. It seems that the ground there has been badly affected by flooding in bad weather recently and there is no alternative pitch in the London area. Instead of sending Leitrim on a wild goose chase, it was decided to play the game in Ireland.

I see where Francie Bellew is out for the Championship after rupturing his knee ligaments. There is even talk that he may never play again

Big loss to Armagh

Huge loss for them alright if he’s out for the Championship.

FAO of glas.

more to come

That’s pretty astute interwebbing Gman.

this INTERNET is serious business. no point in being in it half arsed.

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Paraic Duffy has recommended discontinuing the U21 football championship in a bid to end player burnout.

If the Monaghan man’s bold new proposals are rubber-stamped, the minor intercounty grade will also be changed from U18 to U17.

The director general of the GAA launched a discussion paper on Player Overtraining and Burnout and the GAA Fixtures Calendar at Croke Park this morning, listing a number of proposals that could ease the increasing pressure on intercounty players at the younger end of the scale.

The two main concerns being addressed are the pressure being placed on players between the ages of 17 and 21 “who are being asked to train too much, to play too many matches for too many teams and are afforded too little time for rest and recovery” and the absence of a “fair, evenly-distributed and planned schedule of club matches throughout the year due to the scheduling of inter-county fixtures”.

The full list of proposals - which would be introduced in 2017 and 2018 - is as follows:

  1. Re-grade the inter-county minor grade from U18 to U17.

  2. Play the new minor championships alongside the senior championships as is currently the case.

  3. Discontinue the U21 football inter-county championship.

  4. Conclude the All-Ireland U21 hurling inter-county championship before the senior final.

  5. Increase the number of national league weekends, doubling up football and hurling fixtures.

  6. Discontinue the AFL Division 1 semi-finals.

  7. Establish in rule that players, who are not in the match-day panel of 26 must be available to their clubs on the weekends of intercounty games.

  8. Bring forward the senior All-Irelands by two weeks with the hurling final on the second Sunday of August and the football final played on the first Sunday in September.

  9. Play extra time at the end of all drawn championship matches.

  10. Discontinue the All-Ireland inter-county junior football and intermediate hurling championships.

  11. Introduce a calendar-year fixtures schedule.

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He is completely missing the point on burnout.

Some good ideas no doubt. But thats not the solution to burnout.

Just stop them playing senior. Have a u17 fine, but have a u20 as well and no u20 player plays senior.

But keeping an even younger competition (u17) is even more mindless to be having played along with senior.

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I know the International Rules is coming up soon and all but are the GAA not getting slightly ahead of themselves here in telling another sport how to run its competitions?

Jesus wept…

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Mixed bag there with some down right stupid proposals.

The full list of proposals - which would be introduced in 2017 and 2018 - is as follows:

1. Re-grade the inter-county minor grade from U18 to U17.

Stupid idea, solves nothing.

2. Play the new minor championships alongside the senior championships as is currently the case.

No change?

3. Discontinue the U21 football inter-county championship.
It’s straight knockout and over early in the season. Not a major issue in my book.

4. Conclude the All-Ireland U21 hurling inter-county championship before the senior final.
So jam more fixtures into the summer? Have lads playing even more games in a tight period. DUMB

5. Increase the number of national league weekends, doubling up football and hurling fixtures.
Increase or decrease?

6. Discontinue the AFL Division 1 semi-finals.
Makes sense.

7. Establish in rule that players, who are not in the match-day panel of 26 must be available to their clubs on the weekends of intercounty games.
What club matches are going ahead the week of intercounty matches? League? DUMB.

8. Bring forward the senior All-Irelands by two weeks with the hurling final on the second Sunday of August and the football final played on the first Sunday in September.

Smart.

9. Play extra time at the end of all drawn championship matches.

Smart.

10. Discontinue the All-Ireland inter-county junior football and intermediate hurling championships.
Eh, I don’t see a major issue with it TBH. Maybe ban u-21’s from playing in it.

11. Introduce a calendar-year fixtures schedule.

Smart.

Not half radical enough really.

League.

DIV 1 & DIV 2 play championship.
DIV 3 & DIV 4 play Tommy Murphy Cup or some such

If you are relegated from 2 or promoted from 3 you swap places for that years championship.

Have a final if you want.

Teams are seeded for championship based on league position.
First 4 Seeds 1
etc. etc

4 groups. 4 teams one from each pot.
Top two go through, with 1st in group one playing second in group two. etc.

Week 1. 1st Group match
Week 2. Break/Hurling
Week 3. 2nd Group Match
Week 4. Break/Hurling
Week 5. 3rd Group Match
Week:6 Break
Week 7 Break
Week 8 QF’s
Week 9 Break
Week 10 SF’s
Week 11 Break
Week 12 Break
Week 13 Final

June July August you’d have the whole thing run off. May & September for clubs. The vast majority would have all of August as well.

Same in the hurling except it’d be 4 groups of 3.

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Making alot of sense Julio.

Its an attempt to maintain control. They have seen what the people want and will try and push something thru quickly.

But there is no place for that in GAA.

I firmly believe that the likes of Duffy favour radical changes to structure of the competitions etc but are conscious of the fact that the more radical change is the less change it has of getting through.

Changing minor to u-17 makes a huge difference.

Club league matches. Seems reasonable.

A lot of good points there from Duffy. I’m in.

Its fairly short sighted and basically some form of appeassing. However it completely misses the point on burnout.