Yes
Its the gga faults that stick hurling is only popular in the counties that the british landlords sponsored it
Yes
Its the gga faults that stick hurling is only popular in the counties that the british landlords sponsored it
Kilkenny and Galway are in Munster now? Youâre a bit embarrassing mate.
The two exceptions
Hurling is an ancient game that was played long before the Vikings showed up, let alone the British. The siteâs own historian @anon61878697 can confirm.
Incorrect
Hitting a conker with a stick is ancient, hurling was a game invented by the british landlords
Youâre correct here. On a provincial level it is only popular in one province.
I think there is a Munster championship and then 1 more championship played by teams from the other provinces?
Yes as far as Iâm aware there is just one other provincial championship with teams from outside of there playing in it to try and beef it up.
Itâs very difficult for lads outside traditional hurling areas to understand hurling. Tim and TSG making a show of themselves.
Thats the point mate
I wouldnât pretend to understand the game, but i look at objective facts on how it is organized.
It isnât popular outside of Munster on a sufficient scale. Itâs okay to admit that, sure some rugby tournaments have stupidly tried to organize competitions on a trans continental basis to make more money. Like the numerous GGA hurling formats, theyâre largely failures. I am big enough to admit that.
The more interesting stuff from Paul here is the pretend position the GGA took on their role in Irish liberation. They were ânon politicalâ when they started out and promoted by British landlords, keeping everyone happy. When the winds changed from 1921 they pretended that they were all over the nationalist cause, letting little myths go out like Hill 16. They did this in order to worm themselves tax breaks others didnât get and other special political treatment. They engaged in cultural fascism and are hugely responsible for the view of the Ireland post independence as a mono cultural state.
No, your points are that the GAA has failed hurling and the GAA had little part in the Irish revolution of 1916 - 1921, both of which are dubious at best and not supported by critical analysis in the former and actual historians in the latter.
Paul Rouse is a GGA historian. He says in quotations that this role was greatly exaggerated. That isnât distortion; those are direct quotes.
Revisionist bullshit Tim. There was massive overlap between GAA membership and IRB/IRA membership in 1913 - 1921, in particular in rural areas. In reality, the Irish revolution was a rural affair, all the hotbeds of activity outside Dublin were also GAA strongholds and all the activity in Dublin was organized by rural leaders like Collins .
Here is another HISTORIAN describing this gross distortion of the GGAâs role. The GGA were over with John Redmond weekâs before the Rising appealing for tax breaks from the Chancellor of the Exchequer.
It is hardy a surprise then in the greatly changed political environment post independence that the GGA would latch onto the myth and promote it. The GGA were beneficiaries of unfair tax breaks that other sports could not get in the New Ireland.
Irish society has failed
Dev was a rugby man
Yes and he wouldnât go to a rugby game for half a century for âpoliticalâ reasons. That was due to the cultural facism that the GGA engaged in. Nobody wanted to be treated like President Douglas Hyde.