If you’re going to and try and impersonate a County Londonderry celebrity you should at least make the impersonation believable and go for Frostbit Boy.
He’s gone to Malaga.
Joe only has one alma mater
Joe’s alma mater is Trinity College Dublin.
Yours is Clown College Claudy.
Well when Brolly made the point 6 years ago that the maiming of a PSNI member by a bomb and lack of support from his GGA club was vile, I was in full agreement with him. Indeed many of those celebrating him now were bashing him then.
My issue with Brolly is that there is a very transparent Provo justification campaign going on that he engages in. He is all in for reconciliation and forgetting the past when it suits.
This was the mindset that led to the Provos. It’s also the same mindset that says parts of Lithuania and Poland are still Germany.
It’s the mindset of the dissos.
The mindset of the dissos at least has some perverse integrity - they recognise that Northern Ireland is still British. And therefore that’s their justification for blowing up Peadar Heffron and Ronan Kerr and for the Omagh bomb. The same mindset the Provos had for 27 years.
The other mindset - that of Sinn Fein now - is preferable in that it at least stopped the murdering when it did.
But it’s also filled with contradictions and dishonesties. It holds that murdering PSNI members now is wrong. But if it’s wrong now, how could it have been right to murder RUC members then? What’s the difference? Northern Ireland is still British. What’s the difference? Gerry Adams’s say so? Who is Gerry Adams or Michelle O’Neill or Mary Lou McDonald to say what was justified when and what is not justified now?
If Northern Ireland is still British, and it is, what was all the murder for? It was a total failure. It achieved nothing.
This is the central delusion at the heart of Sinn Fein still. It has to dress up three decades of failure, of nihilism, as “there was no alternative”. TINA. That was Margaret Thatcher’s favourite phrase.
But there was an alternative. Sinn Fein know this because that’s the alternative they’ve been pursuing since 1997, when their previous strategy failed once and for all.
The only conclusion one can draw is that those marching for civil rights in 1971 could easily have signed the good Friday agreement in 1997 but chose to be shot and water cannoned instead, in 1971.
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I’m voting for the monk.
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Genuine question actually.
If Konor runs for president, are there enough fanpeople out there to vote for him?
“What a sorry vision for Ireland is the Provo vision, if it is threatened by cleaning women and clerks, contractors or bricklayers.
Death or dole is the widest choice offered by these champions of the oppressed.”
John Hume
He also described republicans’ objectives as being “not Irish unity, not freedom – but power”.
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What does that have to do with joe brolly?
This lad thinks genuinely NI Catholics were more oppressed than the blacks in America or the blacks in South Africa.
This happens when you’ve never opened a book in your life and confine yourself to the same “news sources” as Aisling O’Loughlin.
Two words: President Bono.
I’ll defer to John Hume’s perspective over Brolly’s newly founded hot takes to get listeners
Hume was slated by the Brutonites and independent newspapers in the early 90s for talking to the ira in an effort to bring about peace . I can’t help suspecting if you were around at the time you would of been part of that chorus.
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That’s a lovely straw man.
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Thank you.
Hume called out the IRA in 1977
The Irish
Times, (8 March 1977): … [23757] - [Newspaper Article]
Never in the long history of Ireland had any organisation claiming to represent basic nationalist aspirations reduced itself to the level of the recent Provisional IRA campaign against a section of the Irish people.
The leadership of the Provisional IRA have decided to murder people purely and simply because of the way they work for their living - because they are in business.
Is there no one left in the ranks of the Provisional IRA who have even a spark of idealism and who has the courage to stand up to his colleagues and shout “stop”,
Is there no one who will look back over the past seven years and ask himself: after 1,500 dead and 17,000 injured, after over more than 500 bombs, what has been achieved?
It is no excuse to point to the atrocities of others. The Provisional IRA are responsible for their own actions and for the suffering they have brought on their own people. And what has the leadership of the Provisional IRA given in return to the thousands of young people who have idealistically joined their ranks and who now find themselves in graves or in jail?
In our city anyone who looks back over the past seven troubled years will recignise at once that anything that has been achieved has been achieved by purely non-violent and political means.
Derry Corporation has disappeared and been replaced by a democratically elected council.
The last few years have seen a great improvement in Derry’s housing situation. On the employment front we have attracted massive new industry. Can anyone doubt but for the violence we would have attracted more.
@binkybarnes seems obsessed with John Bruton. ‘Tis an awfully warped mind to be more concerned about him than the atrocities of PSF/IRA but there we are.
Brolly has been consistent for years. There’s a need to pigeonhole almost every northerner as a provo. It’s utterly pathetic. For years any catholic who appeared on bbc ni had to wear a poppy, overtly condemn the ira and only the ira on cue, or somehow demonstrate that they were one of the good catholics. Once they had been reminded of the status quo they could be tolerated. That attitude still exists in the north, but it’s far more prevalent in the south. I don’t remember brolly ever saying he was anything but against violence and the ira campaign- but he’s not a coward and he’s not going to be your mealy mouthed ‘house n$%@&’. Why should he keep his own intelligence and sense of self hidden in order to pander to the bigoted polite fiction expected by a bunch of smug snobs? And his stance isn’t popular, he’d go further in rte etc if he lied through his teeth.
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