The Joe Brolly tells porkies thread

Joe was quite foolish there tbh, he has a great platform and lost the run of himself

Itā€™s the kind of rant that appeals to some lads here.

Going off about the DUP being clowns as if itā€™s insightful or convincing anyone of your ultimate aims.

Anyway:

Joe has more intelligence in his little toe than there would be in 10 Sports Gemmas.

But at the same time, youā€™d worry a wee bit about him, you really would. Youā€™d worry he might turn into a GAA version of ā€œformer British ambassadorā€ Craig Murray or John Pilger. Heā€™s teetering close to a tipping point.

Attention is a drug, and drugs are dangerous. Joe is a user.

He hasnā€™t so far given any indication that heā€™s capable of pulling back.

While I enjoy him, he could leave the RTE thing go at this stage.

Joe is very much his own man in fairness, and he has many views that the awkward squad would run a mile from
Heā€™s incredibly bitter about RTƉ and like Ewan he can be very personal in his attacks, heā€™ll find himself with a lot of followers that he doesnā€™t want

Heā€™s become an awful bunny boiler.

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Thatā€™s a great line.

Craig was a pain in the hole in Warsaw nearly thirty years ago.

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I thought this was a badly misjudged tweet by Joe. Thereā€™s a serious touch of the Ewans about it.

Understanding the context of why itā€™s badly judged depends on watching the video which is quote tweeted.

Youā€™ll excuse me for not understanding the context, why Rwanda etc?

Itā€™s a dig at the Toriesā€™ policy of deporting asylum seekers to Rwanda. Yes Joe, we get it, youā€™re against this policy, as any decent person should be. Well done.

But itā€™s simultaneously a resentful and indeed hateful cheap shot against British people in general as a response to a video in which three seemingly very decent British tourists in Greece praise the Greek response to the fires, how they have been treated by the local community, and express worry for the Greek people themselves.

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I remember at the time thinking Joe was totally wronged there as everything he was saying was true. Having heard him talk endlessly over the top of Dion fanning on the podcast though maybe Clare Byrne did have to be firm with him there to stop him taking over completely even if her tone and manner was a bit cuntish.
Did Joe leave the discussion of his own accord after that or did RTE kick him out of it?

Saw that referenced loads of times, first time seeing it. Byrne was heavy-handed but brolly was out of line. In any event hia intervention up to then was a load of rambling auld stuff that anyone could come up with dressed up Brollyā€™s self regard. How long did he think he should be allowed to drone on for I wonder.

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His contribution is pointless. He just says the same old shite that everyone knows and agrees with on the DUP. He follows that up with a barbed statement on Unionists generally and how the Tories donā€™t like them (something we again all know). It pans to Andrew Trimbleā€™s face who you can see is turned right off.

Brolly mostly just screams the low hanging fruit stuff to get kudos from lads who are easily pleased. He claims to not really care for a UI, this might actually be the case because what he does is counterproductive. I donā€™t believe that for a minute mind, I think he has been well and truly conditioned to thinking that this advances the cause.

I would say heā€™s far more interested in winning an argument and putting the boot in and looking smart than advancing any cause.

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I think youā€™re wrong on your first point. I had watched most of that show and I think he was the first one on it to call the DUP out for what they are. It was the total elephant in the room. Itā€™s probably not ideal language if you are looking to build bridges but itā€™s still the truth and he was just there to call it as he sees it.

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Iā€™m not sure who he was arguing with there though. It was just a long winded rant with everyone else going ā€œokaaaayā€ until Byrne stepped in.

How is it the elephant in the room?

Iā€™d say youā€™d struggle to get more than a couple of people out of 100 in the south who defends the DUP. Who is he arguing with?

It is a show on RTƉ, not BBC.

The DUP need to be called out on their bullshit for the sake of NI society rather than for the sake of a united Ireland.

I cannot believe that ordinary Protestants/Unionists are by definition more conservative in all aspects of their worldview than ordinary Catholics.

Protestant women need abortions at the same rate as Catholic women, Protestant women are beaten up by abusive partners at the same rate as Catholic women, there is the same rate of gay Protestants as gay Catholics.

Protestants need healthcare and welfare and education the same as Catholics do. Protestants need jobs and need to put to put bread on the table the same as Catholics do.

The DUP are a right wing culture war party and always have been. Itā€™s all they have. Like all right wing culture parties, theyā€™re full of shit.

Strangely enough, Iā€™m the opposite to you. I thought at the time Byrne was right to cut him off, but I think she should maybe have given him another 40 seconds or a minute. Brollyā€™s displeasure at finally being interrupted - heā€™d given the floor for two minutes without interruption - was the most telling thing about where his attitude has gone. I donā€™t know how long he expected, the programme wasnā€™t supposed to be his personal monologue. What he said about the DUP was not wrong but he neither was he making a particularly constructive contribution to the programme.

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On that show it was the elephant in the room. Nobody else had said any of the stuff he said which you would imagine is fairly fundamental to a discussion on the north. Sure if it was as obvious as you make out why did Clare think it was so controversial and cut him off.

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