Because itâs not as black and white as that.
It is actually. Either you think the killing was justified or not. Theres no room for grey here
You sound like Garda Commissioner Martin Callinan criticising whistleblowers
Murder or not?
Well done on a more topical reference. Itâs still not at all comparable unfortunately. Boston College interviewees werenât whistleblowers.
There is. The biggest grey areas being that the facts arenât known. But that wonât stop you from being in full possession of everything you need to make a judgement.
What is on those tapes raises questions. Letâs get Gerry Adams before the PAC to answer questions based on some remote tangential link to public funds.
Are you saying Adams should not have to answer questions and face investigation? He is innocent until proven guilty but throwing toys out of pram because he was interviewed by the police has damaged Sinn Fein. They are rattled. Due process applies to everybody and being morally outraged about being investigated undermines their credibility on other issues. I expect Sinn Fein will see this and over the next short time distance themselves from the armed struggle legacy members.
[QUOTE=âRocko, post: 940673, member: 1â]Iâm not sure why youâve opted for quotation marks around, âit was only one person.â One might be forgiven for thinking this was a sneaky attempt to pretend that I used those words, or even the phrase âonly oneâ in any context. I didnât of course. You seem to have attributed some importance to the number of people mentioned, so let me clarify that for you.
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Hereâs what you said. Look back, itâs on page 10 on this thread.
âHow are Sinn FĂŠin so supportive? One local MP has defended him and not supported by the rest of the party.â
You say one and make out that the rest of the party are of the opposite opinion. I think that is obvious that youâre making a point about it being ONLY one because you say the rest are different. I showed they are not by giving examples. You didnât like the proof and talked bollox about it being irrelevant. I only used it cos you asked for proof (how are they so supportiveâ?). It is relevant because it is proof of support by elected SF representatives in their official capacity. You then deviated into a different tack about official lines and ridiculously, national profile. As if being an elected representative of Sinn Fein is pointless unless youâre at the very top. You can disagree all you like about what you meant. Thatâs fine.
In other business.
You are forgiven for thinking it was a sneaky attempt to portray you as meaning what you said. You had obviously forgotten your original post.
No, it has nothing to do with Jean McConville. I think the thread had become more general. I said something and you asked for clarification on my post.
Iâm not trying to make a case against Sinn Fein, I like much of what they do and claim to be about and think itâs about time for us as a nation to find out if they can follow through on their policies and claims.
I do find their two faced-ness hilarious, in the same way I laugh at the behaviour of many political parties. The 'PSNI is the model for policing/ Dark forces at work 'shit contrast is hilarious. Although obviously Sinn Fein know a fair bit about dark forces being at work. If you asked any person in Ireland over the age of 30 what organisation would be most likely/capable of organising a concerted ongoing attempt to intimidate/threaten (using pipe bombs, petrol bombs, arson etc. )people who have now controlling interests in Quinns old businesses, youâd have one answer. Aside from the GAA and, obviously, Kev, there is no-one capable of it apart from Sinn Fein and their old contacts in the RA (Bandage etc) . Itâs for this reason I mentioned him.
My personal opinion on prosecuting people for the events of the troubles is similar to what you outlined earlier in the thread. There should be an amnesty and a truth and reconciliation commission.
Finally, youâre a great man for trying to tie a fella into an argument youâre losing and look for a victory somewhere else down the line. Sadly, it has not worked this time. Enjoy the day. And wind your Turkish neck in.
A lot of people seem to have a problem with The Provos showing up the quisling class of the Free State and their cowardice.
Same Provos are now collaborating in the administration of Northern Ireland with that same occupying force.
What more facts are needed to determine whether it was murder or not? Either there was an armed conflict and she was a legitimate target, or it was murder.
Horseshit and bluster. All youre doing is attempting to distort a simple fact. Even if she was a tout she didnt get a fair trial or due process or a presumption of innocence. Her fate was sealed long before she was even snatched.
The shinners are awful fond of bleating about âvolunteersâ not getting fair trials: jean mcconville didnt even get ine nor did her children who to date are still harassed by the murderous cunts
Itâs whether she was definitely a tout or not, innit?
If you accept the legitimacy of the IRAâs campaign, then it is just a question of whether she was a British informant or not. If you donât, then the details donât matter all that much.
Maybe so but these are completely different times and the inequality gap would no doubt be much wider now only for the Provo campaign.
[QUOTE=âartfoley, post: 940703, member: 179â]Horseshit and bluster. All youre doing is attempting to distort a simple fact. Even if she was a tout she didnt get a fair trial or due process or a presumption of innocence. Her fate was sealed long before she was even snatched.
The shinners are awful fond of bleating about âvolunteersâ not getting fair trials: jean mcconville didnt even get ine nor did her children who to date are still harassed by the murderous cunts[/QUOTE]
How do you know this?
[QUOTE=âIl Bomber Destro, post: 940707, member: 2533â]Maybe so but these are completely different times and the inequality gap would no doubt be much wider now only for the Provo campaign.
How do you know this?[/QUOTE]
Boston tapes
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A more eloquent manner of putting what I said in Jamie Redknapp speak in the post above it.
Brendan Hughes stated that they found British Army radio transmitters in her flat on two separate occasions. So that doesnât tie in with your logic very well.
Not that simple. Why did the IRA not claim responsibility for her murder?
If you accept legitimacy of IRA campaign are any actions it takes legitimate?
It fits perfectly. Wheres these supposed transmitters and whats the chain of evidence.
Ill leave you with adams on the murder âI believe that the killing of Jean McConville and the secret burial of her body was wrong and a grievous injustice to her and her family.â
Good man gerry, showing up all the barstoolers on here