The Local and European Elections 2019 Hub

[Sidney]

@Juhniallio

But FF’s ‘recovery’ was a dead cat bounce. They face 3 massive challenges that they cannot possibly overcome
1-Their core support was loyalty to a party that was anti treaty. An issue which endured for generations religiously but is non existent today.
2-That loyalty passed through generation s but broke when they fucked up the entire economy of Ireland for the price of a few games of golf for the pisshead Brian Cowen. So their hard-core is greatly diminished.
3-people felt sorry and let them back cos Irish people are sound. And foolish. But their hard-core is still dying out fast. Literally every day.
4-They are so scared of alienating their ‘base’ that they have nothing to offer the modern voter.

2 is obviously the key point there though the other ones are valid, especially 4

But that’s a party problem, not a Martin problem

Martin did well to get them back to where they were but how high they can go in the next 10-15 years is moot

Martin is tainted because he was there under Ahern so he probably has reached his ceiling

However I think he has done a reasonably good job for them given the mess he took over

At the moment it looks unlikely they can overhaul Fine Gael in seats

But it’s unlikely the replacement will be any better and could be much worse - they are very short on talent

Like, Michael McGrath is well fancied to replace him but he has the charisma of a doormat and is very socially conservative

Jim O’Callaghan is the most likely new leader though I think - I can’t see anybody else there who would have any electoral appeal

[anon26343222]

Limerick City and county Council have signed new cricket sensation sashin tendulker. Top class batter

[gilgamboa]

@Funtime

Indeed you me @Cicero_Dandi and @The_Selfish_Giant , the guys who having been consistently promoting enviro-consciousness for as long as I can remember, could take the snooty approach to some of the eco-come-latelys on here but I say welcome everyone to the bandwagon , our planet needs hero’s and it’s not about whether we are seen as TFK enviro forefathers or just 4 online warriors doing our bit for a greener planet, tonight belongs to us but also to the planet we call home

Congrats pal

[Tassotti]

Great to see Mick Wallace is there, he helped me out years ago with something and I have never forgotten him for it

[TheUlteriorMotive]

The ‘Rastoolers deserting Sinn Fein is the real election story on TFK.

[myboyblue]

@Funtime

I have to commend Eamon Ryan’s vote management , maybe my calls to run 2 candidates in Dublin should have been heeded but cooler heads said let’s take the clean sweep and not look for a double Dublin. I guess that’s why I’m on the subcommittee not the executive .

How is Eamon these days? And his lovely wife?

[myboyblue]

The Fianna Failers on here still seething I see

[anon26343222]

@Tassotti

Great to see Mick Wallace is there, he helped me out years ago with something and I have never forgotten him for it

Planning permission

[myboyblue]

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Ken Foxe (kenfoxe)

[backinatracksuit]

As a supporter of the Green Party and green issues for over 20 years I’m delighted to welcome the Sinn Fein exiles to the fold

[anon26343222]

Great to see a super power like France is leaning to the far right in their elections. Ireland have fuck all say th the EU table. Victory for us Conservatives.

[Little_Lord_Fauntleroy]

Odd you never mentioned it before

[Little_Lord_Fauntleroy]

@Juhniallio very smug considering his beloved labour did so poor

[carryharry]

What now for Labour, @Juhniallio?

3% is a disastrous exit poll result for Nunan in Ireland South.
What’s the outlook in Local Elections? Tbf, they seem to be running a lot of new faces and in fairness very young candidates for those.
Nunan being a new face definitely hasn’t worked.

[Tassotti]

I rang him in the dail and he got back to me within half an hour to discuss the issue

[backinatracksuit]

You recall all my posts? Do your homework, either way you’re very welcome, don’t make this petty

[anon32894817]

My boy talukder is going to top the poll in Limerick.

[the_rattler]

Who would have guessed some Dublin cunt from a teachers union would do poorly in Ireland South?

[Cicero_Dandi]

I would have said the obvious one was:

a) form a government with FG where they could have pulled the plug if they didn’t like the policies or handling of the situation
b) not support FG

Instead they have sat beside their masters on a leash as they have lorded it over them for the past 3 years. They are a laughing stock, the slated performance in the European election looks absolutely terrible for them. It looks apparent they got a bounce from the collapse of Labour and FG shooting themselves in the foot with a degree of arrogance last time round - since then they have managed to drift further away from a government that has had a fair degree of scandals and failings in that time. FF have stood by meekly, cowardly and powerless to it and the people see it for what it is.

FF are the Reek to Ramsay Bolton’s FG at this point in time.

[Juhniallio]

@Little_Lord_Fauntleroy

@Juhniallio very smug considering his beloved labour did so poor

Thankfully I’ve learned from your ability to give you’re full heart to spurs/sf/roma/rovers/fixies/chelsea/celtic/rugby/personal and will ride this one out handy enough.