Fantastic use of the drift defence here kev. Make point, get clamped, move sideways to a different argument.
No you didnât say every single doctor. That would be insane, even for you. You said there was a culture of doctors not caring and only being in it for cash. For it to be a culture it has to be fairly widespread.
Adding more professions to your list of money hungry cunts does not make your invalid point about doctors stronger.
Big Pharmacy does indeed have many problems ethically. This does not take away from the fact that drugs are necessary treatments for many illnesses and the effect of these drugs throughout history has been overwhelmingly good.
Iâm not sure what this has to do with anything. I presume anyone who doesnât believe in a form of treatment stops it.
Iâve had a lot of experience with the fatherâs rights brigade; thereâs 2 distinct branches: reasonable lads whoâve gotten fucked over, in the minority, and raving loons who see children as property and a way to get to the ex for damaging their pride by leaving them.
There was a stage where they were clogging up the courts by applying to be Mckenzie friends for people they had under their thrall. Theyâre basically family law freemen.
In respect of your friends experience, family law is an area where thereâs s lot of people popping up against each other and they can be collegial because youâre supposed to be taking as much of the fighting out of it. So itâs no surprise that they had lunch together. Itâd also be no surprise if they were able to agree a lot between them as they would have a very decent idea of where the judge will land. Were your friends expectations realistic or had she been talking to too many bar room lawyer. Your phraseology would seem to me to indicate that she may well been. The child comes first, mostly l, in these type of cases. How did she get fucked over?
Also in respect of the solicitors fees, itâs up to the courts to ensure compliance with the orders, not the solicitors and the vast bulk of these type of cases are done on legal which pay a lot less than what youâre suggesting
No. But it was referencing the culture that exists in Ireland. Heavily pushed by the educational system
Overwhelmingly? Not so sure. Totally agree good gas been done. But that does not ok all the wrong.
Not in Ireland. I know one lad going to a physio for 12 years. Never sorted him, but made about 12k from him. Many many other anecdotes. Same guy is CFO to a huge Irish Building company.
In a nutshell he is a bit like you describe, bitter over being dumped (despite beating her up and multiple affairs, cliched sotuation sadly). He uses kids in a most horrible way.
One example was, it was agreed he would take kids on Long weekends. In the room together. By the time it came back from the clerk this had changed to exactly the oplosite. When challenged her solicitor felt âwe thought it better he had this time off due to his businessâ. She said fuck that, i want back in to negotiate. Solicitor refused. Thats still going on. Solicitor has not responded since before august.
He regularly fails to turn up, pay his dues on time and is often late with kids back. All means she cannot arrange anythibg or have a life. She brings him to court, judge tells him he is a bold boy and its repeated. Said judge is suplosed to be a big issue. Solicitors wonât challenge and is seemingly very pro fathers. He has the means to pay for everything. Last week she asked would he contribute to school clothes, she was told fuck off. Judge told her to call the cops when he is vreaking the rules, she said tge cops more or less laughed at her the first time she did that.
Divorce will be settled soon enough and she is going for full custody. But if this judge is involved she feels she wonât get a thing.
The jist of that fathers rights guys argument was there is no accountability for solicitors or judges and they often donât care for the people involved and look down on them. My mate says this all the time. She had to lose the plot with the solicitor one day as she was dismissing very important life changing day to day things. This seems to be very common complaint.
She was on legal aid at first and said that was farcical altogether.
The knowing the judge thing does not wash with me here. Solicitors making agreemwnts behind the backs of clients and lying to them is at best unethical surely?
Must have phrased that badly, the solicitors shouldnât be making any deals behind the clientâs backs; the solicitors will have good idea where the judge will land and will tell their clients what that in all likelihood is. They will generally ask the client for the lowest they will settle for and the highest they will settle for and will act within those parameters. The lawyers then meet each other, working inside their clientâs parameters and try to resolve the case. If they come to an agreeable figure they will go back to their client and ask if they agree, if they agree itâs written up and signed by both clients.
from the sounds of it, your friendâs case is in the District Court, the divorce would be held in the Circuit. The other point is that if your friend is not happy with the results in the district she has a right of appeal to the Circuit. If the other lad is not upholding his side of the Order its up to your friend to bring attachment and committal proceedings to ensure that he is complying. the most important thing here is evidence. ensure that the maintenance is being paid into a bank account under the order, then bring statements if heâs inconsistent. if heâs not complying with the access look for a section 47 report and keep copies of all texts and emails.
If yerman is seriously messing around with the maintenance look for an attachment order,. If she wants to get out of the District Court, she needs to issue the divorce ASAP so everything from then will go to circuit.but all of the above is stuff her lawyer should be telling her.
Ya she says the divorce is critical for that reason, getting out of district court, that makes sense to me now.
She has everything alright, he is reasonably careful with the abuse but she has enough texts to show he is a cunt, and all the refusals to pay and alsolast minute cancellations.
I suppose the advice here is fight it out and it will come right?
Solicitor is fairly low end from what i can see, get what you pay for i suppose.
I suppose the other thing Iâd say is, if at all possible, to start the proceedings in Dublin where you have 3 judges who do family law all the time and deal with the shite all the time and are wide to the chancers, wasters etc. If youâre in a provincial list, you have a judge that has a totally unrealistic list to deal with and doesnât really have the time to devote to hearings that they should.
If she is entitled to legal aid for the divorce get it, and she should get a barrister for the divorce which would be granted under legal aid.
the solicitors dealing with district court matters generally are dealing with that all the time and to make any money on it you have to get through a high number of cases, so not low end more under pressure
Under pressure does not mean you have to do a shit job. Isnât part of the skill negotiation? And if you donât do it well at the start it gets more difficult. Not returning calls and emails is surely unprofessional?
Anyway other than that thats an interesting point about dublin and worth her looking at.
not returning calls etc is unprofessional but there can be a fine line if the client is hogging the solicitors attention but its up to the solicitor to put an end to that kind of behaviour by sending a letter letting them know its not acceptable.
negotiation is part of the skillset but you also have to work in the parameters of what a court will do and also to manage the client expectations so they donât have unrealistic expectations but the most dangerous thing for expectations is when clients talk to other people who have been through legal situations and expect the same outcome for a totally different set of circumstances.
Iâve just looked there and there is a dedicated family law list in cork, just not 3 judges and one judge for 3 days a week by the looks of it
@artfoley
say if a fella was in a situation where his Mrs. threatened to go to the airport when he was at work and fly off with the child
do airport staff in any circumstances ask at check in if a parent is flying with a child on a one way ticket to a country ( say a place in North Africa) for any agreement from the other party
also, can you approach the gaurds and ask them to give the airpoty a heads up that this may be happening or is it illegal
has your bird taken your name on her passport or is she using her maiden name?
i remember one time my missus was stopped at airport security on her own with the kids as the kids had my name and she was using her own. they werent going to syria only going off on holidays and yerman told her she needed a letter from me next time. she was sickened over it as she was always anti taking my name and she had to change it next time her passport was out.
depends on the circumstances. any parent travelling abroad is normally supposed to have the permission of the other party to leave the jurisdiction, a recent passport can be taken as evidence of consent. normally you have to have a HC order notifying all ports(sea and air) to not let persons leave the jurisdiction.
the other thing is to pray that , if they travel, that its to a country that is a signatory of the hague Luxembourg convention on child abduction so a return could be easily enough facilitated. Iâd also, if leaving was a risk, get the other person to sign a document saying how long the trip is for etc and have it witnessed by a solicitor. If the passport is due for renewal then this would be a good time to do it.
dunno about the legality of doing it off the record but Iâve come across a case where someone used this type of thing and the woman was stopped at the airport.
thanks pal
the âwomanâ in question has 3 passports , one have them has âher husbandâsâ name in a double barrell with her maiden name
the other 2 just have her maiden name,
the child in question has only the âfatherâsâ name
the child hates his mother passionately tho so hopefully heâll row in behind the dad and cause an absolute scene at check in screaming looking for his father