[QUOTE=“Fagan ODowd, post: 946786, member: 706”]I wouldn’t give the Irish Times the satisfaction of letting them think I give a bollix what they print.
Anyway I am genuinely at a loss to work out the purpose of perpetuating this myth.[/QUOTE]
Send it into the waherfurd echo or whatever it is so
I will so.
[QUOTE=“Mark Renton, post: 950413, member: 1796”]
A year earlier the same crowd were throwing vegetables at them as they were being taken away
Typical carry on from eastern seaboard dwellers…
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Tom Kent and his brother William are marched across Fermoy bridge in the wake of their arrest. The wagon behind is thought to have been carrying their wounded brothers David and Richard. Richard Kent died of his wounds The Kent brothers were ready for action on the eve of the Easter Rising. They spent Easter Sunday in Cork, awaiting word from Dublin to mobilize. The hours crept by and there was still no word. Finally, J.J. O’Connell arrived from Dublin with the countermanding order from Eoin MacNeill urging all Volunteers to stand down The brothers returned to Bawnard House that evening but all hell broke loose at 3:45am when six policemen arrived at the house with orders to arrest the entire family. A voice from within the house retorted: ‘We will never surrender – we will leave some of you dead’.As is so often the case with shootouts, there are several versions of what happened next.Suffice it to say, a gun battle erupted in which Head Constable William Neale Rowe had his head blown off by a shot fired from a window of the house, the 15th Royal Fusiliers arrived and surrounded the house. With their ammunition all spent, the Kents opened the door and surrendered. Thirty-six-year-old Richard Kent, an athletic man, made a bolt for the woods but was promptly shot down He died of his wounds the following day.The incensed constables flung Tom and William against a wall and were all set to execute them on the spot when a British officer intervened and said there had been enough shooting done. The two men were marched into Fermoy where they were photographed on the bridge. A horse-drawn cart followed carrying their wounded brothers David and Richard.Two days later, Tom, William and David Kent appeared before a Field General Court-martial, charged with taking part in an armed rebellion, under Regulation 50 of the Defence of the Realm Regulations. Explaining the trial to the House of Parliament in July 1916, Prime Minister Asquith stated: ‘In the interests of public safety, it was decided to exclude the public from this Court, at which no counsel appeared for the prisoner David Kent was sentenced to death; his sentence was commuted to five years prison. He was released by Lloyd George as part of a general amnesty in June 1917 and came home to a hero’s welcome in Fermoy He was subsequently elected to the Executive Committee of Sinn Féin and became Sinn Féin TD for East Cork at the General Election in 1918 Re-elected in 1922 as an anti-Treaty Sinn Féin TD, he continued in politics until 1927 and passed away in November 1930.William Kent was acquitted and went on to become the first Sinn Féin Chairman of Cork County Council in 1917. From 1927 until 1933, he represented Cork East in the Dáil, initially as a Fianna Fail TD and then with the short-lived National Centre Party. In 1934, he was awarded £1,250 compensation for the damage done to his house and furniture during the siege.At his court-martial, Tom Kent spoke somewhere in the region of eighty words. He was convicted of high treason, sentenced to death and executed in Cork Detention Barracks on 9th May 1916. He was shot by a twelve man firing squad, armed with Lee Enfields. As was standard practice at the time, one soldier fired a blank in a rather bizarre British effort to alleviate feelings
On the night of March 27, 1921, the Irish War of Independence was in full swing. Three of Limerick’s leading citizens were home with their families that evening, before morning all three would be dead and one of their wives wounded.
The caption on the photo reads:
Final prayers being uttered in the Gaelic tongue as the coffins of Irishmen killed in reprisals were committed to the Republican Plot of the cemetery in Limerick. The bodies were those of Alderman Clancy, Mayor of Limerick; Mr. M. O’Callaghan, ex-mayor, and Mr. Joseph O’Donoghue; a prominent local Sinn Feiner. They had been shot dead in their homes by a body of armed men.
Translation-- That night in Limerick, the Back and Tans, members of the crown forces in Ireland, murdered the mayor and the ex mayor along with a member of Sinn Feine. George Clancy and Michael O’Callaghan were shot dead in their own homes, Mrs. Clancy was shot trying to defend her husband from the assassins; Joseph O’Donoghue was found shot to death in the street. No one was ever brought to justice for these crimes
FAO @Fagan ODowd and the board---- Trinity offering a free 6 week course (online) starting in September on Irish Lives in War and Revolution: Exploring Ireland’s History 1912-1923.
[QUOTE=“Mark Renton, post: 958283, member: 1796”]FAO @Fagan ODowd and the board---- Trinity offering a free 6 week course (online) starting in September on Irish Lives in War and Revolution: Exploring Ireland’s History 1912-1923.
https://www.futurelearn.com/courses/irish-history[/QUOTE]
Hmmm
[QUOTE=“Mark Renton, post: 958283, member: 1796”]FAO @Fagan ODowd and the board---- Trinity offering a free 6 week course (online) starting in September on Irish Lives in War and Revolution: Exploring Ireland’s History 1912-1923.
https://www.futurelearn.com/courses/irish-history[/QUOTE]
Interesting.
[QUOTE=“Mark Renton, post: 958283, member: 1796”]FAO @Fagan ODowd and the board---- Trinity offering a free 6 week course (online) starting in September on Irish Lives in War and Revolution: Exploring Ireland’s History 1912-1923.
https://www.futurelearn.com/courses/irish-history[/QUOTE]
Which side do they take?
You know well. We will be asked to consider how the era was viewed by all manner of Quislings and West Brits. Including most of the then students of Trinity.
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[QUOTE=“Fagan ODowd, post: 859464, member: 706”]Professor Carolan.
I missed the anniversary of Professor Carolan’s death on 11 October as I was feeling poorly. Professor Carolan is one of the forgotten figures of Irish history and he came to mind last Saturday as I passed his house on 37 Upper Drumcondra Road, previously known as Fernside.
Little is known now of Professor Carolan. The 1911 Census records that he was 37 in that year and lived at 6 Church Avenue, Drumcondra, with his wife, 5 year old son and brother. He described himself as a Professor of the science and art of teaching and he worked in St Pats teacher training college.
Sometime between 1911 and 1920 he moved to Fernside and during the War of Independence Fernside became a republican safe house. Collins is known to have hidden out there. On 11 October, Dan Breen and Sean Treacy were hiding out on the top floor at Fernside, but the the Cairo Gang had been tipped off by a tout, Robert Pike. A party of intelligence officers of the Crown forces pitched up at the house at 2 in the morning. Carolan answered the door as his wife slept.
The Black and Tans rushed into the house and disturbed Breen and Treacy who came out on to the second floor return and started firing down the staircase. Professor Carolan was hit in the crossfire with the evidence suggesting that he was used as a human shield by the British. In the commotion Breen and Treacy jumped out the back window falling through a conservatory roof before escaping badly injured down Home Farm Road. Breen made it to a safe house in Finglas, while Treacy went to Inchicore. Treacy was killed shortly after in a shoot out on Talbot Street
Carolan’s wound wasn’t fatal and he was held for questioning. The Official Inquest was told that during questioning there was a very unfortunate accident and a weapon was discharged, killing the Professor stone dead.[/QUOTE]
Bumping this for @Manuel Zelaya. This raid occurred three days before Treacy was shot in Talbot St.
I’ve read “Sean Tracey and the 3rd Tipperary Brigade” and it’s a decent read. Better than Dan Breens book, though from what I can remember I think it borrows/references from certain sections of his book.
Been looking for that book for years.
Breen claimed in his book that he climbed over the wall of St Patrick’s College whilst badly injured, I think that wall is about 10ft high.
A Black-and-Tan lorry driver named Krumm had spent the evening drinking. In one pub he boasted about his aim and insisted on setting up a row of bottles as targets to show his skill. Tom Hynes, the IRA Intelligence Officer heard of this and sent his brother Michael to warn any Volunteers that an armed man seemed to be preparing to create trouble. The Volunteers were in the habit of going to the station every night to meet the train, watch the troop movement, collect despatches and meet Volunteers from other districts, and this night they were also going to collect arms from the Longford area. Krumm and a companion went on to the platform by the gate on the arrivals side. The Volunteers warned the men arriving with the Longford guns, and the train stopped for a moment outside the station while they went out by the signal box with the guns. The train came into the station and as the passengers started to go out the gate Krumm drew his gun and made as if to shoot into the crowd. Sean Turke jumped on his back, pulled him to the ground and tried to get his gun from him. Sean Mulvoy went to help him and Krumm managed to fire all the rounds in his gun in the struggle, killing Mulvoy and wounding another man. Another Volunteer shot Krumm just as Tom Fahy and Michael Hynes came to help and they took the gun away. Krumm’s companion was still with him but seems to have taken no part in the business. Tommy and the others carried Mulvoy to his lodgings but he was dead on arrival.
A quarter of an hour after we got home we heard several armoured cars go tearing down the road from Renmore and we knew the trouble had started… It was a wonderful still warm night and I could hear every sound in the town from where we were on the shore of Lough Athalia. The lorries full of armed men tore down the road from Renmore and the shooting began. The first shots sounded like machine gun fire followed by dreadful screaming. This was when Sergeant Fox shot young Seamus Quirke. Quirke was taken from his lodgings in the New Dock and shot through the stomach eleven times. He crawled on his hands and knees from the lamppost on the quay where he was shot to the door of his house. The screaming was the background to all the horrors of the next five hours until the poor boy died at dawn. Fr. Griffin was sent for and stayed with him until he died.”