This is a great article
Read it and see how people’s truths can be different but how there is a common humanity there
Commemoration is not about agreeing with cause or method, it’s acknowledging that there is always a common humanity, though different circumstances
Great grandad on active duty here.
Some man to swing a log I’d say.
Of course the Blueshirts fondly remember the DMP for their role in beating the living shite out of the striking workers during the 1913 lock out.
All these things help build trust
You can belittle them all they like but they can mean a lot to a lot of people
Martin McGuinness meeting the Queen of England for instance was an important moment in terms of building trust as was the English anthem being played in Croke Park
If we can’t do the little things how we can we ever hope to do the bigger things, like Irish unification
It was the only thing of note the Biffos did during the War of Independence
Not really considering in Cork city and county alone several thousand volunteers ,and when you take in the rest of Munster ,it’s a lot
I don’t think choco’s point was that there wasn’t anything wrong with the events themselves but the attitude of those in power and some parts of the media which pontificated to the rest of us what we should do and dismiss people’s concerns over these events as immaturity and therefore without any justification.
Even more galling now when it comes from an upper middle class privately educated guy from a relatively exclusive part of Dublin.
When mentioning the posh boy Leo the Langer my stomach turns,he’s absolutely so not in tune with the ordinary folk it amazes me how we came to have him in charge?
Amazing in ways how FG elected him as leader.
I would say he did Stalin and Ceausescu like behind the scenes maneuvering among party members for years before he was elected leader.
What’s pontificating
It’s a term of deligitimisation of somebody else’s view merely because you don’t like it, rather than dealing with actual substance of it
Anybody’s view can be dismissed as “pontificating”
I think the biggest pontificators are thse who use the word itself, because they are trying to create a framework where their view is not open to challenge
You can accuse Fine Gael of that but equally those who just dismiss the thing as glorifying the Black and Tans, that’s pontificating
You should learn how to use full stops.
I know how to use full stops
I have a particular house style that disbars them
And possibly fired at a party of IRA men
he lost the party member vote resoundingly to coveney, but the rules had been changed and the parliamentary party votes got him over the line
He’s a smarmy devil but s politician out n out,hope FG grassroots see him for the charlatan that he is, Leo is for Leo and nothing else,and TBH he’s no religious/ historical/ or cultural ties to Ireland I mean WTF is he doing in Leinster house at all
Coincidentally he was one of those who had lobbied for them to be changed some time previously
For me pontification has some sort of a judgement against another party included in its expression.
So when the powers that be refer to the need for us to ‘mature’, essentially calling us ‘immature’, they are essentially dismissing our opinion as something inherently wrong with our psyche as opposes to respecting our view and our right to hold such a view and that it may legitimately be different to theirs.
Supporting them? The Green Party don’t have many links with the Army Council as far as I know.
He’s Irish. Of course he’s entitled to be there.
