Where did you read that and what reasons were given? Cant be latency issues so would be interested to understand the thinking?
There is now a “major risk” Ireland will lose out on billions of euros in foreign investment and thousands of new jobs as long as a block on #datacentres remains in place, Amazon’s Ireland boss has warned.
Speaking exclusively to the Business Post, Neil Morris, head of the tech giant’s European cloud infrastructure operations, warned the pipeline of foreign direct investment (FDI) will be redirected away from Ireland unless the government urgently addresses the state’s creaking power system to facilitate new data centre growth.
“There’s a major risk here for Ireland,” Morris said"
Ireland needs FDI
Those bumper tax revenues go away otherwise
That FDI leaving is not like a factory closing like yesteryear, it’s the investment falling and employment gradually dropping.
Loads of people will be delighted over Ireland losing FDI.
It is literally Twitter hysteria becoming policy instead of looking to improve capacity.
I don’t see where that article says anything about proximity of data centres with r&d? Why aren’t they computing to building r&d centres with the data centre as opposed to standalone sites?
So you recognise there is a capacity issue. Surely dealing with that first is the pragmatic approach? We can then build for future accomodation instead of data centres sooner than just one outs that add further constraint on grid.
We cant even connect wind and solar projects to the grid in efficient manner presently and they add to the grid nevermind adding more constraint by way of data centres
Why not let them build own power lines if eirgrid can’t keep up
Not sure what youre just slapping up articles for. Bulletpoints perhaps?
Point I made above. It’s been said privately and strongly suggested publically that the restriction on data centres due to electricity capacity issues means the big tech companies will move investment including r and d and ai related elsewhere.
Nordics Germany and Spain will benefit
Irish companies are at the forefront of installing those datas centres on continental Europe. Weve made it a fantastic offering. The business is known inside out.
The right thing to do is not promise what we can’t deliver. Best to be honest, say we haven’t the capacity and go way and build for that future capacity.
The bigger risk to fdi is not being able to do what we say we can. We are presently incapable of taking on the commitment to adding more to our network.
What’s a bigger rosk to fdi- saying no in short term but commit to build medium/long term or take the wedge and have the data centres fail?
I don’t know. I was just highlighting that a failure to build capacity is likely to have more knock on effects than no data centres and will likely slow down and cause us to miss out on other investment we would have benefited from. That will have consequences over next decade.
How many solar panels would it take to run a data centre’s day time needs? A fuck load?
Wouldnt really be feasible here i dont think. Weve one of the toughest environments for solar panels to operate as weve a low uv and lot of cloud coverage. Data centres are very energy intensive so would be too much land to service it. But it certainly could supplement existing infrastructure.
Ideally, youd get these big companies to fund offshore and onshore wind projects but we are even struggling with the network-side operations. For example, lot of renewable project groups are hopping mad about esb not meeting connection dates, not having enough personnel etc
That uncertainty is affecting investment considerations and we really need to gear that up before we commit to adding more load to the network nevermind projects that should be lightening the load.
Should have been 50plus stories anyway.
Must be a relief for all that the “attractive pedestrian environment”, the horribly shabby stand and floodlights on one side and a Circle K forecourt on the other, is to be retained. Unfortunate for the developer that the number of tennis club members meant the usual payment of extortion money for securing planning in this part of Dublin just wasn’t viable this time.
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