Like what now? I’d been doing spine and core classes for six months before.
There’s a certain level you need to be at before you join the class anyhow so maybe they take it into account there but I can’t speak for the organisers of the class.
I just know I’m enjoying it immensely and it’s the best fitness regime I’ve ever participated in. I’ll probably scale it back from 13 classes per month to 9 and do a bit more running in the run up to Christmas.
Do you sit for a living?
Yes, hence the huge issue with overhead squats.
I try to find a reason to get up off the seat every hour. I’d love to have a standing desk so I might try shd make it happen.
If you sit for a living then what you are doing will not prepare you for olympic lifts etc.
After this long if they have not sorted your thoracic mobility and pelvic tilt then they don’t know whT they are doing. It should not take that long.
Getting up every 20 is advisable. Even for 30 secs. Makes a difference.
Indeed. This is why I didn’t go near it until I had six months of core and stability work with weekly PT sessions concentrating on weightlifting techniques.
The additional focus of the Crossfit trainers is helping immensely. Not to mention the fact that I’ve researched it enough to know not to ‘get brave’ before I’m ready for the proper Olympic lifts.
You’re giving out when lads are rushed into things they’re not able for and you’re still giving out when lads are being baby-stepped through the process. They could hardly take it any slower with the lad.
Of course they don’t.
No PT ever says another PT knows what they are doing. It must be the pettiest industry going. Worship a few foreign online “gurus” to make you seem like you have some kind of cutting edge methods and then deride everyone else as bluffers. Not applying that specifically to you but it seems to be par for the course in s&c.
Very defensive about a regime that neglects stability work, thoracic mobility and pelvic tilt.
Tick tock croppy… Tokyo 2020 will roll around quicker than you think.
This is the thing. PT is NOT S&C. And people very iften mix up the different strands of fitness. I am at my wits end explaining to new clients i am not a Nutritionist. They assume you know everything about everything to change their lives.
Crossfit pretends to be S&C but its not. It trains its staff in around 24 hours. They do 1 weekend of Weightlifting. It takes years to get efficient at that. I’m at it a long time and almost every single person comes in with a different fault.
And this is the big mistake alot of GAA clubs and rugby and soccer are making. Shelling out big money to a lad within the club to do S&C who is the local PT. This usually ends in tears of some sort. All he is interested in is getting lads into his gym and he doesn’t give a fuck about is he building a team fir the sport or will his “fitness” transfer to the field and not reduce their skills. He will base his success totally on numbers. Week 1 they ran this fast. Week 6 they ran that fast. There is more to sprt than that. Crossfit falls into this area. The odd Crossfit is run by S&C guys with a Bsc. in something or pules of experience and they tend to adjust it have best of both worlds.
There is conflict. But its mostly between insecure PT’s or S&C frustrated at PT’s killing people or teams or pretending to be S&C. There is now a few very low level S&C Certs out there thats flooding the place with cowboys.
Par for the course with any newish trade. Just have to do a good job and help out anyone you think is being hoodwinked.
Was same with Digital Marketing etc 12 years ago.
It shows they have no idea what they are looking for.
Use it or lose it. You are looking after yourself, and no doubt the intentions of these lads is the same. But you have to constantly build, maintain and build stability with abd for Olympic lifting or OH Squats.
Stability & mobility, especially for the modern office worker, is something you have to battle forever. Bottom line. Every day you go in and sit down you are messing that up.
Add in putting heavy stuff over your head and you need an even higher level of it. I have a few Crossfitters with me. 2 in particular are animals. Clean & Press over their BW when they walked in. But neither of them could hold a Back Extension (off a glute ham machine) for a minute. In fact one of them stopped in pain after 20 secs the first day. That would indicated to me they are not (and visually this was apparent) using their spine correctly at all. They were basically grinding it out thru speed, strong shoulders & hips but not using their backs in between to stabilize at all.
See can you do a hanging Back ext for 1 min + and close to a full wall slide (google them, mike boyle probably has best wall slides). 2 indications of true stability & mobility above the hips for Overhead anything (snatch or clean of OH Squats). Below the hips then is all about pelvic tilt. If you have whats called butt wink, a serious twist of the pelvis at bottom part of the squat then you are doing untold damage to Lumbar region, L4&5 most likely. This comes from sitting mostly. Hammys get tight, hip flexors get tight, glutes get weak. This causes the pelvis to be literally oulled either forwards or backwards anywhere up to 50 degrees in cases. This is normally the reason for low back pain in office workers. Its also one of the reasons for hamstring tears or tightness in amateur athletes who also sit at a desk.
This is the important part. Lets say you do a 60KG Clean & Press x3-5 reps. Add the 60 + maybe 50% your own body weight. Lets say 100KG in total. Thats the dead weight coming down on a lumbar region with an added shearing of the vertabrae. You roll over the L4&5 in particular with that. Now remember its a power exercise so its happening fast. Mass x Speed = Force. The downward force at speed is actually going to be anywhere between 2 & 6 times the weight going down on your spine. So probably 200-300 KG’s of force down thru the spine. X 3-5 reps. So within 45 secs you put around 1000 KG thru your spine. Are you ready for that? And thats not ever considering the knees and if you have knee valgus.
Now that takes serious spinal stability and a near perfect technique. The Chinese are coaching kids from age of 6 now to develop this for the high end Olympics. Bulgarians trained 6 times a day to become the best. 4 of those sessions were technique and stability based. 2 lifting.
Being able to put the thing over your head is one thing. And that can be restricted by mobility in thiracic or hip or even ankle regions. However having the actual stability for it is another ball game. I have probably 2 guys who i would consider doing Olympic lifting with. They are both with me over a year. And its only consider. There is no real need for it. Not for sport or life. But they are fun, technical and challenging. They have probably done over 100 stability sessions with me, and some homework too specific to them.
The first thing i will do then is break the moves down into all the different sections and oractice them. 1st pull, 2nd pull, transition, rack, catch, hang, squat, OH Squat etc etc
These are the things that Crossfit does not, generally, consider.
Answering a question he asked is defensive?
Your life must be a hazardous place when your life partner is PMSing if that’s what you think 
Huh?
Wowzer.the lack of stability work is affecting your brain
Trademark distraction tactics from @croppy_boy by bringing my life partner into this. A little bit vitriolic in tone too when everyone’s looking out for him.
Are guys still not doing stability and mobility work before workouts? Crazy shit
The paralympics if he isn’t careful.
This is an insight into what stability warm ups should be like.
In addition, For running/sports etc i use a variation of and like alot are Vern Gambettas Mini-Band Warm ups.
Not the best version of it, but shortest
Any posters doing the Quest Adventure Race in Killarney next weekend? I hope to be getting close to the finish this time next week. Did the 60km route last year and enjoyed it but signed up for the 70km this year. Training hasn’t been great recently due to work commitments, but at least I’ve laid off the beer since the all Ireland. If I don’t sign in next week, I’m probably getting airlifted off Mangerton.
I’d want to get my head examined.