The School, College & University Competitions Thread (another thread gone west)

This is a very incorrect post

That’s Ronan McNamee, a lad that gave up the buildings to go back to Uni.

Good result for St Marys against DCU.

That says enough about him so,tax dodger. Looking for a handy few years.

UUJ is the place where county players start courses in their early to mid 20s. They’re there for one reason only.

Any player from Ulster who has tried his hand at AFL and came back is straight on a course to UUJ.

Some man for excuses

Excuses?

Yes excuses for losing.

Gas the way you bring up Marys but avoid UUJ.

You don’t even realise how revealling you are

I addressed UUJ before St Marys.

I would also agree with Il Bomber Destro’s summation that teams with a lot of established inter county players lack motivation for this competition as they have more pressing matters on their agenda.

It’s probably a reason why St Mary’s were able to defeat a team with loads of established senior intercounty players today.

Its orobably more the sum of the parts being better than the individual.

Too many egos in UUJ, everyone in Sigerson would tell you that.

Alot of the UCD and UCC have to fight hard for a place, thats a major reason for their success.

I’m sure that’s part of the reason but for a county player who is well established at senior level, particularly for a county with big aspirations, they have bigger things on their mind. I remember hearing Jamie Clarke attended about 4 training sessions with UUJ in his time there.

Sigerson should do away with county players in any case, if you’re involved in a county panel for the year, then you should be excluded from university football. The likes of Durcan, O’Connor, McShane, McCann and Meyler are now faced with the prospect of 3 games in 6 days in early February, one of those games having gone into ET.

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You are wrong about that for the most part.

Guys floated in for spurious courses yes are going to have suspect application. But thats not the case with UCC, UCD, DCU etc. Guys there 3-4 years have a real affliation with the college no matter what their level.

Only team i remember bucking that trend was IIT (Tralee) with arguably one of the best Sigerson teams ever. They won with a team of floaters. But that was back in the day when socialisibg served as team bonding so bonding was quicker.

You give a great example of why Uuj are always losing with Clarke example.
Kerry always have trusted Morgan and those before him to train their players for instance with UC , never pressuring them. Counihan was the same for Cork. They had a brain.

Was that when Woolie was down there on a tourism course?

DCU?

They’re the next biggest culprits to UUJ in the dubious courses field, do you not remember the Aidan Walsh debacle a few years back.

UCC won a Sigerson a couple of years back with hardly an established county player among them, that’s because they would have been together and trained together for months/years and university football would have been their main focus. Unless you’re from a really shit county or completely on the periphery of things, county football is going to take sole focus.

Easy to see why the likes of Bradley and McNamee wouldn’t be too bothered today when they have Dublin in Croke Park in 3 days time. For most of the UUJ lads, who are established senior footballers, university football is just a chore and a box ticking exercise to whatever agreement they have. That’s why I feel it should do away with county footballers, too much football for them at this time of year.

UCC had Geaney, Crowley, Shields etc.
They don’t train that hard, they train clever. Once a week only sometimes.

They have a good culture. People just live playing with them, even at lower levels.

Yip

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UCD’s success rate is deplorable Kev. 1 sigerson in 20 years. No Fitzgibbon since 2001. Unless I’ve missed one or two.

FFS sake. You’re worse than me mentioning the U14 county final all the time.

This was the UCC team that won in 2014.

UCC: Brian Kelly (Kerry); David Culhane (Kerry), Eoin O’Mahony (Cork), Fergal McNamara (Kerry); Tom Clancy (Cork), Conor Dorman (Cork), Brian Shanahan (Cork); David Nation (Cork), Ian Maguire (Cork); Luke Connolly (Cork), Sean Keane (Kerry), Brian O’Driscoll (Cork); Conor Cox (Kerry), Michael Quinlivan (Tipperary), Paul Geaney (Kerry).

How many of them were established senior county players in the 2013 All Ireland Championship?

Not many, Crowley played in an AI semi-final for Kerry in 2013. Geaney didn’t. How many of those Cork players played Championship football for Cork in 2013? Clancy maybe? Quinlavin was probably on the Tipp panel but Tipp were playing Div 4 football that year?

There’s a lot of lads there who were not established at senior intercounty level therefore university football takes on a much bigger importance, they have the availability to train together on a regular basis, when you have established players at county sides who have serious ambitions then that will take precedent, naturally.

As I’ve said for some time now, Sigerson football should exclude county players, a lot of them don’t care as it’s secondary to the county set up.

There was 7 IC players on that team.

Thats the norm. Its only the likes of UUJ and DCU in the past (they have changed course now) that were at that craic thinking having 15 county players was the answer.

Some of those player got the call up due to Sigerson performances. Thats what you don’t get.