They may well have done so. What wasnât there was the endless online portrayal of these communities as sub human savages. What wasnât there was the drive to get your 15 minutes of fame by becoming a viral clip. The lads who were part of that incident last night will all have watched the clips online themselves and got off on their notoriety.
Every one of these viral clips i) increases the drive to become part of a viral clip, ii) stirs up endless divisive online discussion and iii) helps to stigmatise and ghettoise these communities further.
The internet itself reinforces the cycle. Weâve become a society obsessed by narcissism, triviality, performative idiocy, winding up others and far worse stuff. Obsession with money, obsession with looks, obsession with consumption, obsession with âexperiencesâ, obsession with contrarianism and deliberately making others angry. There are a lot of online subcultures which are dangerous.
Actually things like the Trinity Access Programme are brilliant and widely supported. Itâs not corporates responsibility but I think this idea that kids in the likes of Sheriff Street are ignored when the IFSC is next door is a load of shit.
I think the point is (and we are largely aligned on this) is that talking about facilities, âjobsâ etc doesnât cut it.
What facilities does cherry orchard lack compared to most parts of the country and nearly all parts of rural Ireland? Claiming thereâs a lack is the same nonsense that putting in shops and restaurants (!?) will alter anti social behaviour.
The problem here is they donât feel part of society as they are separate from it. And the only cause of that is a lifetime on the dole, for generations. Make any sort of work or training part of their lives and suddenly they have the organisation that brings, plus they see themselves as contributing, and then valuable members of the community. It changes the outlook completely. Allied to this there has to be proper enforcement of laws, you simply canât have a society that isnât in some way regulated for the safe enjoyment of the majority. So fines, community service and for the most dangerous cunts prison is the only answer. And better equipped and trained gardai. There has to be a consequence to actions. Moving the worst of the worst away from decent people is just a necessary step. The decent people trying to raise their kids right deserve the chance to do so, put the true skangers in a sink estate and police them into politeness. But nothing will be done as Ireland is in truth a me feiner society.
I disagree with Ireland being a me feiner society. Thereâs instances of it obviously but theres also evidence to the contrary. The GAA is a wonderful example of widespread community spirit and volunteering that you donât see on that scale in very many countries. Weve often been told that ireland donates to charity at a higher level than most, albeit we probably steal from it at a highrr level too.
Would you prefer letting hoodlums continue robbing cars and driving them into the Guards and whatever else they get up to without consequence.
What about the decent people living in those areas sick to death of this carry on? Imagine trying to raise a family in that environment where lawlessness is actively encouraged if the authorities refuse to enforce the law.
Where actually enforcing laws work? Most of Europe, Canada, Australia. But your only here for the bit of virtue signalling do you not get enough from the climate faux empathy
Right. We need to target a few countries there and get below them. Im shitting myself knowing we are worse than Russia, palestine and Sudan on the crime index.