Itâs bollox how that other wanker gets most of the credit for the smiths.
Always comes across as a decent human being as well unlike the other fella
No itâs not. Morrissey was incredible.
Think most into music at this stage know who the master was
Itâs a terrible shame that ads are mainly what alerts me to good music these days.
Danger Twins - Just Like That
Marr was/is an awesome guitar player, but barring a few decent tunes with Electronic he never recorded anything of note (to my ears) after the Smiths,
Morrisseys early solo career was as good as much of the smiths and he continued to churn out good albums for many years, is he a cunt now, most definitely, but donât forget what he gave us as young lads, his lyrics will live on longest
Some nice lyrics but never liked Morrissey as a singer at all either. Ruins a lot of great tunes with his warbling over them in my opinion.
I decree today that life is simly taking and not giving.
England is mine, it owes me a living.
I love Morrisseys voice, but that may be because I loved the songs he was singing so much.
Outstanding and all as he was (in my opinion) there was scores of guitarists that Morrissey could have teamed up with and become a success, there was only one Morrissey
While Marr was outrageous in terms of his standard at the Smiths, it was the lyrics and front man presence of Morrissey that tipped them into greatness for me.
I think the Smiths were the product of the serendipitous meeting of Morrissey then at his wits end and the supremely confident Johnny Marr. Morrisseyâs singing was like nothing ever heard in rock before - Billy McKenzie of the Associates was the closest in style but his style was massively over the top. Marr was playing jangly guitar chords that really hadnât been played in England since the 60s and only the Paisley Underground movement and to a point REM were playing the guitar anyway similar with a nod to the Byrds.
I donât think Morrissey would have succeeded with a backing of the lumpen indie rock that predominated at the time and Marr would have had no impact with the Dave Gahan type singers who were popular in the indie scene. It was just a lucky accident and then they assembled a decent rhythm section.
It is telling that in nearly 40 years there hasnât been a decent or notable cover of a Smiths song. I think it would be too difficult to pull it off musically and vocally.
The chemistry must have been incredible between the two to do what they did in such a short space of time. They had 70 odd songs in around four years and you could count the duds on one hand, if even at all.
They were producing their own stuff as well - well Marr was. And he threw a flute onto There is a Light that Never Goes Out. Sure why not?
Mark Ronsons stop me if youâve heard this before isnât bad
The other element that might be forgotten was that at the time there was a TV show called The Tube that aired at tea time on Friday on The new channel 4. It was fronted by Paula Yates and was the first program that almost exclusively promoted indie rock and the Smiths were regulars on it and it was very popular. Morrisseyâs awkward dancing really appealed to the awkward indie set. I suspect without this visual aid the impact of the Smiths may not have been as profound.
The dream academy - please please let me get what i want is good