BBC coverage is a disaster.
Delighted to see a gentleman like Oxx win another Derby. A supreme trainer.
Straight to the Leger now chaps for the Triple Crown? 
Not a chance theyâll go for the ledger. Irish derby is a possible but their more likely to come back to 10 furlongs with a horse with such speed, maybe taking in the eclipse and the irish champion stakes before a tilt at the arc. This horse has the potential to be one of the greats. Heâs already earned a place in my heart and my pockets quite greatful too
Unreal horse.
BBC zooming in on him with furlong left made a shit of the coverage. they are some joke. John Parrott a racing expert fuck off. Iâve a better tipping rate than that tool. Clare Lezbo cunthole horseface Balding and that annoying prick rishi. As for the failed bookie Wiltshire. When you watch the state of them you realize how good RTE do racing with Ted, Robert Hall, tracy piggott and even Brian glesson.
Them bookies are some fucks heads. Kept his price at 11/4 all the way even tho fame and glory was backed from 7/2 to 9/4 and there were at least 2 50k beats on it. Tight pricks.
Anyway still happy with 50 ew at 10s for the guineas and 3/1 for the derby. The montelado appeal fund is flowing along nicely at the moment. If my luck can keep going until 835 when joe oâbrien has hopefully brought home the last leg of my lucky 15 on Maurice Utrillo:pint:
BBC are a stupid whower of coonts ok. Rishi needs shooting, awful spanner.
Some horse is âSea the Starsâ, and more impressively still, some mare is Urban Sea. Sea the Stars has every chnace of beaing as good if not better than Gallileo at stud, offering a great outcross to Saddlers Wells mares.
Tracy PiggotâŚsteady on there Montelado, sheâs up there with one of the worst broadcasters ever to hold a mike. Agree with all the rest though, BBC Racing sucks the dog.
Ya i know shes bad but not compared to John Parrot. At least she has some clue about what shes talking about. You donât see Rte putting her on a snooker programme and let her off spoofing.
From Sporting Life
Sea The Stars has earned an official rating of 124 following his win in the Investec Derby at Epsom on Saturday.
Four horses have achieved higher ratings in the last ten years, while it is the same figure New Approach received last season.
Jim Bolgerâs horse went onto achieve a rating in the 130s following his win in the Champion Stakes at Newmarket, and Senior Irish Turf Club Handicapper Garry OâGorman feels the same fate awaits John Oxxâs colt.
He told sportinglife.com: "It will take a good horse to be ahead of him in the rankings at the end of the year. Iâd be disappointed if he wasnât the top-rated horse in the world by the end of 2009.
"We have him rated at 124 for his win in the Derby. Iâve just spoken to Chris Nash of the BHA and he agrees with that figure also. That makes Fame And Glory 120, Masterofthehorse 119 and Rip Van Winkle 119.
"Just to put that into context that is the same figure New Approach had last year after winning the Derby. He of course went into the 130s after winning the Champion Stakes and I would be equally confident that Sea The Stars will progress into those figures.
âI donât want to be seen as damning him with faint praise, but 124 as a Derby-winning figure in the last 10 years would be behind Authorized, Galileo and High Chaparral (all 126). Youâd then have Sinndar and Motivator at 125, and then youâd have New Approach and Sea The Stars on 124.â
OâGorman feels a step back in trip to 10 furlongs will see Sea The Stars inflate his rating, and is keen to stress that his Derby figure, lower than five other horses in the last decade, shouldnât be taken into context.
âI think if he beats older horses, and perhaps steps back in trip you will see his figure climb into the 130s,â OâGorman continued. "I find it hard to imagine this horse getting beaten.
âI wouldnât like his figure of 124 to be taken into context. It is an average Derby winning-figure but itâs more based more on the proximity of the horses he beat than the merit of his performance.â
I was only reading there today that Ellen Martin and Seamus Mulvanney tried to sue betfair over comments made in the chatroom there. Seems the judge ruled in favour of Betfair though. Had Tubbsy anything to do with it?
Eh iâm almost certain RTE did have her presenting the Irish snooker open for a while. She seemed to have a horn for Ronnie OâSullivan if memory serves correct.
Any more info on this?
not really, just that the judge ruled in favour of Betfair. No idea what was said originally on it.
Was this the reason tubbsy got banned I wonder?
Could do with banning tubbsy from a few more forums if you ask me.
And workrider as well. His son was giving me socks when the pigs got their winner against us in Tallaght.
My tentative enquiries have led me to believe it was.
I see Tony Martin is on the latest list of tax defaulters:
Horse trainer Tony Martin paid 104,770 in undeclared PAYE/PRSI and a fine of 34,926.
Canât believe he would be up to something dodgy like that.
[quote=âThe Runtâ]I see Tony Martin is on the latest list of tax defaulters:
Canât believe he would be up to something dodgy like that.[/QUOTE]
I detect a note of sarcasm
Good article this
Brilliance of Sea The Stars does talking for John Oxx
Julian Muscat
The Derby was a triumph for those who like to arrive without fanfare. It was one against the head for the concept that sporting occasions are diminished by the absence of preamble hype. No outrageous claims in the build-up, no faux brashness, no fall-guy to pummel in the aftermath. And all the better for the fact.
For that we have to thank John Oxx, whose only concession to hype would be to look up the word in a dictionary. Oxx was quite sure that Sea The Stars was a supremely gifted athlete; he didnât disguise his opinion when the colt won the 2,000 Guineas last month. But he also recognised the risk in asking Sea The Stars to race over a distance 50 per cent farther than he had ever previously tackled.
So there was no Greville Starkey-like declaration that Dancing Brave was bombproof before the 1986 Derby. There was no borrowing from Harry Findlay, who suggested that Denman had broken Kauto Starâs heart - only for the latter to shame Findlay by outclassing Denman in the Gold Cup. Just the simple truth from Oxx that Sea The Stars was only 50-50 to last home.
The beauty of any Derby is that no one really knows what is likely to happen. The Derby does not represent the endorsement of a champion but the first instalment in the making of one further down the line.
While some trainers are natural optimists, others prefer their horses to do the talking. Oxxâs lack of chest-thumping rhetoric was far more in keeping with what the Derby stands for.
Even now, with a potential super-horse on his hands, Oxx will not change tack. Most trainers who had just won the 2,000 Guineas and Derby with the same horse - the first to do so since Nashwan 20 years ago - could be excused for riding the hype train. Yet Oxx knows only too well that Sea The Stars has only just embarked on a long and arduous journey.
In an era when greatness has lost its meaning and sporting biographies hit the shelves when the subject is barely out of nappies, the advent of Sea The Stars is refreshing. Here is a colt of infinitely more substance than those hailed prematurely before him, yet still he flies under the radar.
As he prepares for the sterner tests, Sea The Starsâ unflappable temperament will be a telling asset. He has shown no semblance of an Achillesâ heel. Perhaps the only claim Oxx has flaunted on his coltâs behalf saw him repeat an old truism: that trainers recognise a Derby horse from the moment he walks into the yard.
That same observation did not apply to the Ballydoyle six, four of which finished in a well-beaten heap behind Sea The Stars. Another old truism states that if youâre inclined to run six in the Derby, there isnât a champion among them. There wasnât. Over and above their unacceptably late arrival in the paddock, this was a Derby to forget for Ballydoyleâs massed ranks.
Mick Kinane had so little to fear from Golden Sword and Age Of Aquarius that he positioned Sea The Stars eight lengths off the Ballydoyle pacemakers in third place. Moreover, the second Ballydoyle wave of confirmed stayers was nowhere to be seen. It must irk the stableâs patrons that they were ridden to accelerate past a 2,000 Guineas winner in a slowly-run Derby.
In hindsight, of course, it can safely be said that Sea The Stars would have triumphed however the Derby was run. And while thatâs the hallmark of an outstanding Derby winner, only hindsight will tell us whether Sea The Stars is an outstanding racehorse. There is a world of difference between the two.
I read that yesterday in the Indo alright. Not sure if heâs right about the best being yet to come though.
Told everyone to back Deutschland yesterday evening and then of course didnât myself.