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1.30 leopardstown - defy logic 9-4 nb
2.00 leopardstown - treat yourself 2-1
2.35 leopardstown - our conor 4-1
3.10 leopardstown - gilt shadow 5-1 nap

i disagree with all that KC. If you name his best three performances, the common denominator has been the ground. on the best ground he raced on, which was at aintree last year, he ran to a mark of mid 140s.

you should call up the british handicapper then, because after his aintree run he was put up 5lbs from 152 to 157ā€¦he has way more experience that MOT (he has run just 4 times) and iā€™d be surprised if they both go there and mcoy didnā€™t chose AFC

you might also want to check the record of beneficials at cheā€¦

has any champion hurdler ever won the arkle (rock on ruby) ?

Sizing Europe the only one in recent memory who could have only for breaking down

I donā€™t think its ever been done?

In my opinion he ran to mid 140s.

I am quite surprised cooper is on trifolium tomorrow? he was definitely given an easy time at xmass, I thought heā€™d ride mozoltov

would agree strongly with @fenwaypark re gilt shadow, cracking bet @ 5s

Think ground is important to him and may explain why he ran so poor last time out.

I wonder has mullins put on some pressure re riding arrangements for mozoltov, you would have expected cooper to ride him and davy to ride trifolium?

its a very strong irish arkle, I think we hold the aces at this grade

Trifolium could be expected to get closer to Felix Younger tomorrow as the ground is totally different from whe they last met. Trifolium is not without a chance. I would say that Cooper just chose him.

Dodging Bullets is a seriously progressive young chaser. We have a strong hand but DB is formidable.

yes, he looks good. not too sure what he;s beaten though, and he didnā€™t achieve the hurdle rating youā€™d normally associated with the arkle winner?

Like the look of the following at Leopardstown tomorrow

1.30 - Felix Yonger
2.00 - Treat Yourself
3.40 - Knocklong
4.10 - Princely Conn

[quote=ā€œthedancingbaby, post: 893167, member: 48ā€]Like the look of the following at Leopardstown tomorrow

1.30 - Felix Yonger
2.00 - Treat Yourself
3.40 - Knocklong
4.10 - Princely Conn[/quote]
You think FY will be as effective on soft ground DB? I think he is far better on decent?

Again, high class bumper horse does not equate to high class hurdler which does not equate to high class chaser.

yes, but there is a well accepted correlation re arkle between the higher rated hurlders and the winner. moscow flyer and tuitchev were exceptions and even he was useful, but in any case dodging bullets achieved 156 which I didnā€™t realizeā€¦which is plenty good enough