The Tennis Thread

Amazing how Federer’s peak coincided with there being no competition.

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Bullshit and you know it. Del Potro is a former US Open champion and a player of serious credentials at Flushing Meadows. He backed that up with a run to the 2018 final the following year. Once again you have been shown to be extremely disingenuous when it comes to the truth.

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A pity he had no competition and no longevity.

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Huh? Federer beat Nadal in two Championship finals in 2006& 07, beat Djokovic in a US Open Final in 2007, beat multiple Grand Slam winners Andre Agassi and Lleyton Hewitt in US Open Finals and a US Open Champion Andy Roddick in Championship and US Open Finals.

He was still beating Nadal in his late 30’s in an Australian Open Final.

The most telling fact of all is that Federer’s main contemporaries of 03-07 were all washed up non entities in the tennis world by their mid 20s (Roddick, Hewitt, Safin, Nalbandian, Davydenko etc). It really shows how weak tennis was when Federer won 12 titles in 5 years.

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He never beat Rafa on clay court tennis either.

Bjorn Borg won his last Grand Slam a day after turning 25. John McEnroe won his last Grand Slam at 24. Stefan Edberg won his last Grand Slam at 26. Boris Becker had 5 of his 6 Grand Slams won by the age of 23. Do wins over any of these all time greats carry any merit because they were washed up by their mid 20’s?

Federer wins over 2003 US Open Champion Andy Roddick and US Open and Wimbledon Champion Lleyton Hewitt are dismissed because Hewitt and Roddick were apparently washed up at the same age as Borg, McEnroe, Becker and Edberg.

We haven’t heard the spin yet on Federer beating the 7th seeded 35 year old, 8 times Grand Slam Champion, Andre Agassi in the 2005 US Open Final.

Nadal at the 2017 and 2019 US Open beating veterans Del Potro and Cilic, seeded 24 and 22 and sliding down the rankings, 8 and 5 years removed from their lone Grand Slam wins are viewed as huge career defining scalps though.

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It’s a damming indictment of Nadal that Federer beat him in that Australian Open final a few years ago and at Wimbledon this year

Nadal is a clay court specialist who outside of a two year purple patch career peak 2008-10 essentially hasn’t been able to beat the top players on the faster courts. Since 2010, Nadal has faced Djokovic 6 times at the Championship, Australian Open and US Open and the lone Nadal win out of those 6 meetings was at the 2013 US Open. Nadal is fortunate that he won’t be facing Djokovic on Sunday night. That was a fearsome straight set hiding Djokovic inflicted on him in Melbourne back in January.

Nadal hasn’t beaten Federer in a Grand Slam on grass or hardcourt since the 2014 Australian Open semi finals and Federer has won 7 of their last 8 meetings on all courts since that match, the only loss for Federer, this year’s French Open. Federer will be disappointed that a back injury derailed him this week as he’d surely have beaten Nadal in a final based on all known formlines over last number of years. As against that, Djokovic was injured against Wawrinka and Djokovic if fit would likely have had the measure of Federer and almost certainly Nadal.

The Djokovic fanboys are seething too.

Are you saying Djokovic is the GOAT?

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The resident All England club member @Tassotti summed it up best here earlier. The Championship is the true measure of the greatness of a player, the Big One. You can have triple crowns, Grand Slams or whatever you’re having, but in every sport there’s a big one. Just like it’s the Open in Golf, the Tour de France in cycling, the Derby for flat racing, the Championship is the only one that really matters in tennis.

Federer with eight championship wins is out there on his own. Djokovic has a tidy haul of five and if he gets up to eight or nine, he could well have merit in claiming that accolade.

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The Augusta masters is the biggest golf tournament on the planet. The open is a farce.

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The French Open is the biggest tournament in tennis followed by the Davis Cup and US Open.

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You’re so rattled you’re trawling the internet on a Friday afternoon and coming up with articles that are nearly 18 months old.

Rattled, Nadal is in with a great shout of 19. He’s 5 years younger that Federer. He’s had an injury ravaged career, the tennis calendar works against his favour. Yet he continues to break all records, he continues to prove why exactly he is the :goat:

If you to look at rattled, get a mirror. You’ve be caught out here trying to mislead and he disingenuous with the truth. What would motivate you to be so?

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You haven’t come up with a single factual inaccuracy in anything I’ve said today. I have schooled you on tennis related matters again. All you’ve had to offer is the usual screeching and wailing, going off topic, moving goalposts and not dealing with the facts as presented.

I have but you and facts are like oil and water.

You were caught out earlier on Del Potro, badly caught out and you’ve been spinning and deflecting ever since, coming out with some British jingoism about bog tennis in London. You are a parody of a 200 year old dinosaur who can’t accept reality.

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